Feb 15, 2004 12:17
20 yrs ago
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French term

crime de droit commun

French to English Law/Patents Law (general)
a term in French law; maybe a crime against the person?

Discussion

Non-ProZ.com Feb 15, 2004:
common law? how does this fit in with the French legal system?
Non-ProZ.com Feb 15, 2004:
clear definition please

Proposed translations

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a crime under ordinary French law

ie not under any other kind of law.
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3 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "I think that it may be a crime that is not covered by any specific law other than what is in the Code Civil, so you are closer than the other answerers. But the questions wasn't stated very clearly... Regards, Andre"
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ordinary law crime, common crime

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Domaine(s)
  – Criminal Law
  – Citizenship and Immigration
Domaine(s)
  – Droit pénal
  – Nationalité et immigration
Domaine(s)
  – Derecho Penal
  – Ciudadanía e inmigración
ordinary law crime
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common crime Source
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non-political crime Source
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crime de droit
commun Source CORRECT

Termium
Peer comment(s):

agree chaplin
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agree chabert
3 hrs
agree Abdellatif Bouhid
3 hrs
agree Harvetta Asamoah
6 hrs
agree Peter Freckleton : Eg "decide whether it was a political offence or a common crime" ,http://www.lawschool.cornell.edu/library/cijwww/icjwww/igene...
3 days 11 hrs
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8 mins

Civil disturbance

Public safety violation
(Public) Ordinance violation
Breach of peace
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6 mins

common law offense/ common law crime

www.scotland.gov.uk/consultations/justice/wghc-07.asp


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Common law offenses not covered by statute. – Every act and omission which is an offense at common law, and for which no punishment is prescribed by the general laws, may be prosecuted and punished as an offense at common law. Every person who shall be convicted of any offense which is a misdemeanor at common law shall be imprisoned for a term not exceeding one year or be fined not exceeding five hundred dollars ($500). Every person who shall be convicted of any offense which is a felony at common law shall be imprisoned for a term not exceeding five (5) years or be fined not exceeding five thousand dollars ($5,000).

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Common law offenses not covered by statute. – Every act and omission which is an offense at common law, and for which no punishment is prescribed by the general laws, may be prosecuted and punished as an offense at common law. Every person who shall be convicted of any offense which is a misdemeanor at common law shall be imprisoned for a term not exceeding one year or be fined not exceeding five hundred dollars ($500). Every person who shall be convicted of any offense which is a felony at common law shall be imprisoned for a term not exceeding five (5) years or be fined not exceeding five thousand dollars ($5,000).

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Peer comment(s):

agree writeaway : also on Eurodicatom
4 mins
http://www.criminaldefenselawyer.com/frequentlyAskedQuestion...
agree Guy Demers (X) : yap, common law offence
7 mins
agree Emmanouil Tyrakis
4 hrs
disagree Mary Lalevee : the term "common law" cannot be used to describe French law
8 hrs
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non-political crime

Wider and different than/to 'common assault & battery'

Droit de A a Z: droit commun = ensemble des regles de droit normalement applicable a toutes les les situations juridiques en dehors de textes specifiques.

I agree with Gilles' standard neutral rendering of ordinary law. The connotation of Common Law is Brit. Commonwealth/ non-equity/ unwritten Eng. law etc. etc.

CANADIAN parallel-text case-quote from weblink:

'b) Qu'elles ont commis un *crime grave de droit commun* en dehors du pays d'accueil avant d'y être admises comme réfugiés;

(b) he has committed a *serious non-political crime* outside the country of refuge prior to his admission to that country as a refugee;'
Peer comment(s):

neutral writeaway : saw that but wonder how it fits in with the context
6 mins
agree with context point.
agree cmwilliams (X) : Depends on context. It has also been translated as non-political crime in the Declaration of Human Rights (Article 14).
25 mins
Agree again with context point and kind of 'official' translation. But, then again, 'possessions' (in brown paper bags?) for biens in the ECHR Convention is an off. trans.!
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