Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
bei dessen
English translation:
if, when (he or she is unable to be present)
Added to glossary by
Bianca Jacobsohn
May 1, 2006 09:59
18 yrs ago
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German term
France
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Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, English to French
bei dessen
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From:
"Die Mitgliederversammlung wird vom Vorsitzenden, bei dessen Verinderung vom stellvertretenden Vositzenden geleitet; ist auch dieser verhindert, wählt die Mitgliedversammlung einen Versammlungsleiter."
This is purely a grammar issue. I have come across "bei dessen" before:
(Mitgliederversammlung werden vom Vorsitzenden, *bei dessen* Verhinderung vom stellvertretenden Vorsitzenden durch einfachen Brief einberufen)
and translated it as:
"Annual General Meetings of the membership are convened by the chairperson AND MAY BE prevented by the acting chairperson by way of a simple letter. "
Is this acceptable and can I do the same for the first sentence?
TIA!
"Die Mitgliederversammlung wird vom Vorsitzenden, bei dessen Verinderung vom stellvertretenden Vositzenden geleitet; ist auch dieser verhindert, wählt die Mitgliedversammlung einen Versammlungsleiter."
This is purely a grammar issue. I have come across "bei dessen" before:
(Mitgliederversammlung werden vom Vorsitzenden, *bei dessen* Verhinderung vom stellvertretenden Vorsitzenden durch einfachen Brief einberufen)
and translated it as:
"Annual General Meetings of the membership are convened by the chairperson AND MAY BE prevented by the acting chairperson by way of a simple letter. "
Is this acceptable and can I do the same for the first sentence?
TIA!
Proposed translations
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| 4 +1 | if, when (he or she is unable to be present) |
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| 4 +3 | in his absence |
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if, when (he or she is unable to be present)
My suggestion for the whole sentence:
The Annual General Meeting will be chaired by the appointed chairperson or if/when he or she is unable to be present by the vice-chairperson; if the latter is also unable to be present, the meeting will select a person to chair the meeting.
The shareholders' meeting - come to that, ANY meeting with a chairman/chair(person) - is NOT "directed", but chaired by that individual.
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Note added at 28 mins (2006-05-01 10:28:02 GMT)
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So for the second sentence the sense you have suggested is not correct; it should be "...chairperson, and if s(he) is unable to do so, by the vice-chair(person)...".
The Annual General Meeting will be chaired by the appointed chairperson or if/when he or she is unable to be present by the vice-chairperson; if the latter is also unable to be present, the meeting will select a person to chair the meeting.
The shareholders' meeting - come to that, ANY meeting with a chairman/chair(person) - is NOT "directed", but chaired by that individual.
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Note added at 28 mins (2006-05-01 10:28:02 GMT)
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So for the second sentence the sense you have suggested is not correct; it should be "...chairperson, and if s(he) is unable to do so, by the vice-chair(person)...".
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Comment: "Thanks David, your answer best explains "bei dessen""
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in his absence
Meetings...are directed [NOT convened!] by the chairperson or, in his/her absence [in case he/she is prevented], by the deputy chairperson. In case the latter is also absent, the meeting elects a person to direct the meeting.
I'm sure you will find a better way of expressing this, but that's the gist of the sentence. There is no letter, no convening and no invitation involved or mentioned.
I'm sure you will find a better way of expressing this, but that's the gist of the sentence. There is no letter, no convening and no invitation involved or mentioned.
Note from asker:
| Thanks for your help! Would be great if one could award points to more than one answerer! Bianca |
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