Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

parfum de banane à l'aigre-doux

English translation:

sweet and sour banana sauce

Added to glossary by Anna Maria Augustine (X)
Aug 18, 2005 16:42
18 yrs ago
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French term

parfum de banane à l'aigre-doux

French to English Other Cooking / Culinary menu, Quebec restaurant
This is the dish:

Filet de sanglier de Yamachiche cuit saignant,
Glace de viande aux framboises et vinaigre de champagne,
Parfum de banane à l'aigre-doux,
Jeunes légumes de saison


I don't know if the "parfum de banane" relates to the glace de viande or if it is another side dish (bananas??) Any help in unraveling this mystery would be greatly appreciated! :-)

Discussion

Anna Maria Augustine (X) Aug 22, 2005:
Thank you Pina. I'm not so sure I would eat it but maybe it's nice.
Non-ProZ.com Aug 19, 2005:
I asked the client for an explanation so I will keep you posted! Thank you all for your input!
sporran Aug 18, 2005:
the more I think about it, the more I think it is a side dish too.Couldn't 'parfum de' just be a fancy name, like sweet and sour banana savoury or something ?
kmaciel Aug 18, 2005:
To my mind, "parfum" in this sense basically means a "taste-enhancer" such as a pickle or a condiment (or even for instance, mustard), which is not actually a "food" but is used in small quantities at the side to enhance the taste of the main dish.
Non-ProZ.com Aug 18, 2005:
I don't see how "parfum" = chutney/salsa. References?

Proposed translations

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2 hrs
French term (edited): parfum de banane � l'aigre-doux
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sweet and sour banana sauce

Well, why not?

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Lemongrass - [ Traduire cette page ]
... served with sweet and sour sauce $6.95, fish cakes with green beans, ...
Poultry, choice of seven dishes, includes sweet and sour chicken with assorted ...
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Pinoy Cook's "Sweet & Sour Pink Salmon Balls" - [ Traduire cette page ]
For the sweet and sour sauce : 1 c. of banana catsup 1/3 c. of vinegar 3/4 c.
of light brown sugar 1/2 c. of brine from the canned pink salmon 1 c. of water ...
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Peer comment(s):

agree Flo in London : I prefer 'sauce' to 'salsa' because I associate chunks of food with 'salsa' and ' parfum' doesn't evoke bits of banana, but as it's listed as a separate item on a menu, maybe it's more substantial than 'essence' or 'flavour' which would be more correct?
16 hrs
Thank you
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Mystery solved! Here's what the client said "Pour le mot PARFUM, la sauce à l'aigre-doux est parfumée à la banane fraîche. Ce n'est pas un chutney, mais bien une sauce. On parfume la sauce en incorporant au mélangeur la banane." Thank you all for your input! :-) "
7 mins
French term (edited): parfum de banane � l'aigre-doux

sweet-sour bananas

A suggestion.
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10 mins
French term (edited): parfum de banane � l'aigre-doux

sweet and sour banana flavour

imo this refers to the glacé de viande: Bon appétit !
Peer comment(s):

agree Elizabeth Lyons : : )
2 hrs
here we are again ! thanks Elizabeth :-)
disagree kmaciel : I don't feel that "parfum" refers to the "glacé de viande" but is something quite different that could be served even without the "glacé de viande"
6 hrs
thanks kmaciel, see note at top where I revise my opinion !
agree Lisa Laplante : or maybe flavoring? Flavouring?
7 hrs
thanks Lisa !
disagree Suzy G : you can't eat a "flavour"; needs to be something concrete here!
7 hrs
thanks Suzy, please see in asker notes I revise my opinion !
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43 mins
French term (edited): parfum de banane � l'aigre-doux

sweet and sour banana salsa

just found this - it might be a type of salsa (or chutney as suggested above):

http://www.ecook.co.nz/index.php/ps_pagename/recipedetail/pi...
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10 mins
French term (edited): parfum de banane � l'aigre-doux

banana perfume with sweet and sour fragrance

I don't think this one needs an explanation. It's self-explanatory.

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Note added at 1 hr 36 mins (2005-08-18 18:19:05 GMT)
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Sorry folks thought this was perfume which I don\'t know about anyway!!
Peer comment(s):

disagree Allan Jeffs : Sorry Adil, I don't think sweet & sour refers to the smell! "Taste" not "fragrance"
16 mins
Your right as a man I shouldn't have commented on perfume anyway!Had I known it was icecream!!.
disagree kmaciel : I really cannot fathom what Adil's being a man has to do with his competence on commenting about perfume. Most perfume creators are men (and even though it is commonplace to feel that women consume perfumes more, men are really not so far behind)!
7 hrs
Dear Kmaciel, what you say is true, but I'm not one of those perfume creator's or users!)))
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2 hrs
French term (edited): parfum de banane � l'aigre-doux

sweet and sour essence of banana

ça existe le parfum de banane! ça doit sentir bon (et donner faim et nous rappeler notre enfance)

Guimauves aux couleur et parfum de banane.
http://www.valgourmand.com/cgi-local/env.pl/SID=3325412621/p...
www.recette-dessert.com/ muffins-myrtilles-banane-r228.htm
Peer comment(s):

agree Lindsay Sabadosa (X) : This is exactly what I thought of before I even opened the question. I have no way to back this up unless I do a bit of research but instinctively this seems correct.
52 mins
disagree kmaciel : oui, mais "aigre-doux"? cela ne semble pas du tout à une aro^me ou un parfum. Il me semble que c'est certainement quelque chose que l'on sert à part, et qui ne fait pas parties des ingrédients du pla^t principal. Aussi dans votre sens parfum = "essence".
4 hrs
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12 mins
French term (edited): parfum de banane � l'aigre-doux

sweet and sour banana chutney

It seems to me that the first item is main dish accompanied by three small accompaniments.
Hope that was helpful.

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Note added at 1 hr 5 mins (2005-08-18 17:47:57 GMT)
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Further to my brief answer to the asker above, I would like to add that French chefs have come up with ever increasingly imaginative ways of describing the most mundane of foods, I have seen (in Switzerland) the following: \"pommes juliennes frites au parfum de tomates doux\" to mean \"French fries with ketchup\"!!!

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Note added at 6 hrs 58 mins (2005-08-18 23:40:41 GMT)
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Continuing my comment to DocteurPC, I would like to point out that an \"essence\" is an ingredient and cannot be SERVED separately. At this rate, the menu would have to list all the ingredients of all the dishes! I don\'t believe that is the intention of the original author of the menu. Otherwise one would wonder why \"butter, oil, etc.\" has been left out and only \"banana essence\" (sweet and sour at that!!) mentioned. Also, I don\'t believe that anything known as \"sweet and sour banana essence\" is commercially available!
Peer comment(s):

agree Allan Jeffs : You might be onto something here. Hadn't heard of "banana chutney" before but, after a spot of Googling, I found a recipe for "Ginger-banana chutney" which would indeed be sweet & sour.
17 mins
agree Patricia Fierro, M. Sc.
17 mins
agree Angela Dickson (X) : though I have to say it sounds awful...
3 hrs
There is nothing awful about banana chutney!! It is an oriental "taste enhancer" like a pickle, generally made of tamarind sauce, date paste, sugar, vinegar and banana pieces. Very commonly served with South Asian food.
agree Suzy G : although I would use "condiment" instead of "chutney", not knowing if it really is chutney!
7 hrs
The only problem with this suggestion is that "sweet and sour banana condiment" sounds exceedingly odd on a menu. I have never seen the word "condiment" used to denote a side-dish in English.
agree Anne McKee
17 hrs
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19 hrs
French term (edited): parfum de banane � l'aigre-doux

sweet and sour banana coulis

another possibility perhaps?
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