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Jan 23, 2011 10:40
13 yrs ago
Italiano term

Pancia profonda

Da Italiano a Inglese Altro Scienze sociali, Sociologia, Etica ecc.
"La pancia profonda degli Stati Uniti". E' riferito agli esponenti dell'America provinciale, tradizionalmente vicini agli ambienti repubblicani
Proposed translations (Inglese)
4 +5 underbelly
4 pot-belly
4 visceral core
3 deep in the gut

Discussion

Miriam Hurley Jan 23, 2011:
underbelly I noticed that underbelly has a double usage. Usually with "soft" underbelly, it seems to mean vulnerable point, whereas alone is seems to mean "a hidden unpleasant or criminal part of society". A flea-ridden mangy dog belly. Unless the context is so strongly negative, I would go with a more colorful way of saying "heartland".

Proposed translations

10 min

pot-belly

Without more context, it's not easy to capture the nuances of the derogatory tone. Should I emphasize the hunger of this demographic group (hungry belly) or its unattractive bulge? I opt for the second.
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17 min

deep in the gut

Of course, depends on context, but you could work with this phrase

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Note added at 41 mins (2011-01-23 11:22:25 GMT)
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Another thought: you could add an adjective to gut to fit the nuance of the context
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+5
44 min

underbelly

try this
Peer comment(s):
agree Joyce A : For sure.
11 min
agree Rachel Fell : in the underbelly of the United States
20 min
agree P.L.F. Persio : with Rachel.
21 min
agree Science451
36 min
neutral Miriam Hurley : I think this might be associated too much with crime to fit the context. If it's like in this sentence "un puro e semplice rigurgito di quel cristianesimo fondamentalista che sale dalla “pancia” profonda e rurale degli Stati Uniti...."
3 ore
neutral Mailand : At first I liked the sound of "underbelly", but after a moment's thought I'd say it sounds a little too negative and, after all, "provincial" and "Republican" do not have a negative connotation for all of us ....
4 ore
agree Lorraine Buckley (X) : mailand, you may love the Republicans but this article supports a less positive view and uses underbelly to describe the tea party ers at least http://oneutah.org/2009/11/22/twenty-percenters-the-underbel...
7 ore
saying "underbelly" doesn't necessarily have any left or right politicial connotations. It's an expression that might be used to describe the deep south of any country.
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8 ore

visceral core

The idea here is default values and behaviours, "gut feeling" as Miriam implies. In English, "visceral" is the word that best conveys this notion and "visceral core" is quite frequently used when the writer needs a noun.
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