Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
juge du fond
English translation:
Trial judge - at the court below
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Paul Stevens
Aug 20, 2003 11:12
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French term
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Works in: Spanish to English, French to English
juge du fond
French to English
Law/Patents
This is an extract from a defence statement in respect of an appeal being made to the "Conseil d'Etat" regarding a decision made by a previous court relating to a company's tax assessment:
"La société XXXX, tout en renvoyant à ses écritures devant les juges du fond, entend rappeler les observations suivantes, s’agissant de l’irrégularité de la procédure de vérification suivie en l’espèce."
I know that "fond" can often mean "merits" in legal papers, but I do not think that this fits here, or, indeed, where the phrase "juge du fond" appears elsewhere in the text.
Can anybody therefore assist on the correct legal meaning of these 3 words. TIA for your help.
"La société XXXX, tout en renvoyant à ses écritures devant les juges du fond, entend rappeler les observations suivantes, s’agissant de l’irrégularité de la procédure de vérification suivie en l’espèce."
I know that "fond" can often mean "merits" in legal papers, but I do not think that this fits here, or, indeed, where the phrase "juge du fond" appears elsewhere in the text.
Can anybody therefore assist on the correct legal meaning of these 3 words. TIA for your help.
Proposed translations
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| 5 +3 | Trial judge - at the court below |
KirstyMacC (X)
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| 4 +2 | trial judge |
Francis MARC
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| 4 +1 | lower-court judge |
William Stein
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| 4 | trial and appeal court / court below |
Gillian Hargreaves (X)
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Proposed translations
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15 mins
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Trial judge - at the court below
Context invariably on appeal. Trickier is trans. of Conseil d'Etat, either not translated by purists or goes to Council of State. However, non-categorically, it approximates to the UK Privy Council.
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Comment: "Many thanks"
12 mins
trial and appeal court / court below
In other words, these are courts that just the facts, substance or, as you say, merits of the case, whereas the highest appeal courts (cours de cassation) will decide only matters of law.
The terms above are given by F.H.S. Bridge "The Council of Europe French-English Legal Dictionary"
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Note added at 13 mins (2003-08-20 11:26:28 GMT)
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I suppose that should be \"trial OR appeal court\" - \"Trial and appeal courts\" is OK in the plural, which is what Bridge gives.
The terms above are given by F.H.S. Bridge "The Council of Europe French-English Legal Dictionary"
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Note added at 13 mins (2003-08-20 11:26:28 GMT)
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I suppose that should be \"trial OR appeal court\" - \"Trial and appeal courts\" is OK in the plural, which is what Bridge gives.
Peer comment(s):
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Mpoma
: Bridge is generally good, and your point about "or" makes sense. Except for the fact that although "les juges" may translate to "the courts", this doesn't necessarily mean that "le juge" translates to "the court". I prefer KirstyMac's solution.
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14 mins
trial judge
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... However case law has clearly established that it is for the trial judge (juge de fond) to decide whether to permit avoidance or to simply reduce the price, if ...
www.cisg.law.pace.edu/cisg/biblio/bergsten.html - 71k
Confirmation Termium:
Domaine(s)
– Citizenship and Immigration
Domaine(s)
– Nationalité et immigration
trial judge Source CORRECT
juge de première instance
Source CORRECT, MASC
juge de fond
... However case law has clearly established that it is for the trial judge (juge de fond) to decide whether to permit avoidance or to simply reduce the price, if ...
www.cisg.law.pace.edu/cisg/biblio/bergsten.html - 71k
Confirmation Termium:
Domaine(s)
– Citizenship and Immigration
Domaine(s)
– Nationalité et immigration
trial judge Source CORRECT
juge de première instance
Source CORRECT, MASC
juge de fond
Peer comment(s):
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Abdellatif Bouhid
: Trial judge it is. He/She is the one to determine the issues and issue findings, in contrast to the pre-trial judge who rules on pre-trial interlocutory motions.
1 hr
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| agree |
writeaway
1 day 20 hrs
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+1
21 mins
William Stein
Costa Rica
Costa Rica
Native in English
Costa Rica
Translations that read like originals
Native in: English (Variants: US, UK)
Works in: French to English, German to English, Spanish to English, and 3 more.
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lower-court judge
That's what generally call them in the US:
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Ruling seen near on Microsoft appeal in Java case
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Court TV Casefiles: The OJ Simpson Appeal
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Peer comment(s):
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sarahl (X)
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