Oct 16, 2009 06:58
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English term

upside down

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I've hit a slight snag in a cookery programme I'm translating and need an appropriate English phrase but I can't think of one.

What's happening is that a woman is making pancakes. One of the judges is talking about this and uses a term which means literally upside down - or more accurately, something along the lines of "t*ts up" or "a**e over t*t." Now, I can't think of any other phrases in English which have a similar meaning but which aren't crude, and I can't edit out because the host refers back to it. The only other one I can think of off the top of my head is cock-up, but that's not much better. Any suggestions gratefully appreciated.

Discussion

Mirra_ Nov 6, 2009:
thank you very much you know... pancakes are always a fascinating matter :o)

but it wouldn't be better to use a whatever "flat metaphor" of insuccess since I guess it's this the case...?

just wondering :)

and again thank you for the kind explanation
Dylan Edwards Nov 6, 2009:
Scottish Gaelic, more like - sorry.
Dylan Edwards Nov 6, 2009:
Thank you. I like it! Irish?
kmtext (asker) Nov 6, 2009:
Original phrase The original phrase is "bun-os-cionn" . The closest translation in English is "upside-down". Literally, it translates as bottom over top, but it has various other connotations of things going wrong, chaos, disaster etc. Something "going pear-shaped" conveys a similar meaning in English, and, given the fact that it was for a cookery programme, I think it's doubly appropriate.
Dylan Edwards Nov 6, 2009:
To be honest, I'm very curious to know what the expression is in the original language. As kmtext explains, the literal meaning is roughly "upside down", but it serves as a general expression for things going wrong.
Mirra_ Nov 6, 2009:
sorry I don't get how 'upside down' is related with the unsuccessfully pancake making. May you explain it to me? Or, please, include some context (as writeway already suggested)?
thank you
also because what Dylan Edwards guessed - about the 1st pancake flop - is absolutely true but it deals with the raising not with the shape.
thank you
writeaway Oct 16, 2009:
please post the En sentence Please post the entire En sentence containing upside down

Responses

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pear-shaped

Really difficult to imagine what is the best term, without seeing what this person produced, but this is common, up-to-date and not offensive

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Note added at 6 mins (2009-10-16 07:04:27 GMT)
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topsy-turvy is another, but it's a bit dated

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Note added at 3 hrs (2009-10-16 10:21:35 GMT)
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SNAFU; screwed up; messed up

Here's a good choice:

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=snafu
Peer comment(s):

agree Patricia Townshend (X)
26 mins
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agree Tony M : Yes, as in "it's all gone pear-shaped" — and rather nice for a culinary context too!
39 mins
Thanks. I suppose a pear-shaped pancake is still edible - with your eyes closed!
agree Melzie
1 hr
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agree foghorn
1 day 2 hrs
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flop

It seems to be almost proverbial that the first pancake is a flop - or even a write-off.

A deft flip of the pancake is what one aims for. The occasional flop is inevitable.

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2 days 14 hrs

flip side

You may have to rework the sentence structure.
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