Jun 22, 2023 13:28
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French term
pourcentage de recouvrement
French to English
Medical
Mathematics & Statistics
Validation of changes
Another question on my article on medical stats.
Par ailleurs il est conseillé de ne pas faire les mesures pour estimer le *pourcentage de recouvrement* et la variabilité dans des expériences séparées, sauf si cela impacte l’utilisation de la méthode en routine.
percentage overlap?
Par ailleurs il est conseillé de ne pas faire les mesures pour estimer le *pourcentage de recouvrement* et la variabilité dans des expériences séparées, sauf si cela impacte l’utilisation de la méthode en routine.
percentage overlap?
Proposed translations
(English)
1 -1 | proportion / rate / percentage of overlap (/similarity) | Daryo |
3 +1 | recovery percentage | liz askew |
3 | recovery rate | Mpoma |
References
Yes, percentage overlap; | Andrew Bramhall |
comment | liz askew |
Proposed translations
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proportion / rate / percentage of overlap (/similarity)
if the aim is to "to assess whether a product is unchanged before and after implementing a change e.g. in a process", then
recouvrement = overlap i.e. "pourcentage de recouvrement" would be the extent of the "overlap = similarity" between a product before and after implementing a change in a process.
pourcentage de recouvrement = 100% would mean the product is exactly the same before and after a change in the process.
pourcentage de recouvrement = 0% would mean the product before and the product after changing the process have absolutely nothing in common, that after changing the process, the resulting product has been changed beyond recognition.
Doesn't matter at all what is "the product" or "the process" used to make the product. The method used is clear enough: make some changes to "the process" and mesure "le pourcentage de recouvrement" i.e. to which extent the resulting product "overlaps" with the product obtained by the same process before the change.
ALL THIS ASSUMING THAT "recouvrement" IS NOT PART OF THIS "process" which is yet to be confirmed so CL1.
recouvrement = overlap i.e. "pourcentage de recouvrement" would be the extent of the "overlap = similarity" between a product before and after implementing a change in a process.
pourcentage de recouvrement = 100% would mean the product is exactly the same before and after a change in the process.
pourcentage de recouvrement = 0% would mean the product before and the product after changing the process have absolutely nothing in common, that after changing the process, the resulting product has been changed beyond recognition.
Doesn't matter at all what is "the product" or "the process" used to make the product. The method used is clear enough: make some changes to "the process" and mesure "le pourcentage de recouvrement" i.e. to which extent the resulting product "overlaps" with the product obtained by the same process before the change.
ALL THIS ASSUMING THAT "recouvrement" IS NOT PART OF THIS "process" which is yet to be confirmed so CL1.
Peer comment(s):
disagree |
Mpoma
: Not in microbiology.
1 day 4 hrs
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Microbiology??? All I can see here is some general statistical method for evaluating the results gained from changing **a** process. ***Would be the same no matter what the "process" is about*** - making shoes or deciding loan applications..
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Comment: "many thanks for your help"
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recovery percentage
Using Sampling Recovery Percentages
Cleaning Validation Simplified
https://cleaningvalidation.com › memos › using-sampl...
If this is the manner of using recovery percentages, then generally an acceptable percentage recovery should be 50% or greater. If recoveries of 50-65% are ...
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Note added at 4 heures (2023-06-22 18:14:38 GMT)
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https://www.quansysbio.com/support/recovery-and-linearity/
26 Sept 2022 — %Recovery = ((Observed Concentration – Endogenous Concentration)/ Spiked Diluent Concentration)*100. The mean percent recovery for any sample ...
Cleaning Validation Simplified
https://cleaningvalidation.com › memos › using-sampl...
If this is the manner of using recovery percentages, then generally an acceptable percentage recovery should be 50% or greater. If recoveries of 50-65% are ...
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Note added at 4 heures (2023-06-22 18:14:38 GMT)
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https://www.quansysbio.com/support/recovery-and-linearity/
26 Sept 2022 — %Recovery = ((Observed Concentration – Endogenous Concentration)/ Spiked Diluent Concentration)*100. The mean percent recovery for any sample ...
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Mpoma
: Done a few pharma things. I believe it's about recovering micro-organisms after experiments, something like that...
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3 days 3 hrs
recovery rate
The minute you said this was about pharma it was clear this was about micro-organisms. The correct term in French is "taux de recouvrement", but as it's measured in % it's fine to say "pourcentage de recouvrement".
Liz's term is close but Anglophone microbiologists use "rate".
There's a definition on this page https://www.a3p.org/determination-taux-de-recouvrement-etape...
For what is meant by "recovery" in microbiology see here: https://consultglp.com/2017/07/18/estimating-mu-for-microbio...
"Recovery is defined as “Proportion of the amount of analyte, present in or added to the analytical portion of the test material, which is extracted and presented for measurement”."
Liz's term is close but Anglophone microbiologists use "rate".
There's a definition on this page https://www.a3p.org/determination-taux-de-recouvrement-etape...
For what is meant by "recovery" in microbiology see here: https://consultglp.com/2017/07/18/estimating-mu-for-microbio...
"Recovery is defined as “Proportion of the amount of analyte, present in or added to the analytical portion of the test material, which is extracted and presented for measurement”."
Note from asker:
sorry it isn't necessarily microbiology, I hoped answerers had seen previous questions. |
Reference comments
15 mins
Reference:
Yes, percentage overlap;
It is also advisable not to carry out measurements to estimate *percentage overlap* and variability in separate experiments, unless this impacts on the routine use of the method.
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Reference:
comment
what bothers me is that I am unable to find "pourcentage de recouvrement", only "taux de recouvrement" as in:
https://hal.univ-lorraine.fr/hal-01770845/document
Figure 23 : Taux de recouvrement (%) de solutions hERG par rapport à une solution « Cal » de même concentration en CLHP-UV .
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Note added at 1 heure (2023-06-22 15:25:13 GMT)
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Probing the Interaction Between Inactivation Gating and
University of Oxford
https://www.robots.ox.ac.uk › ~thomas › Numa...
PDF
by H Numaguchi · 2000 · Cited by 112 — In summary, the findings suggest that extracellular Na hastens the development of HERG inactivation during depolarization and the ****rate of recovery****
I don't know if this is relevant
https://hal.univ-lorraine.fr/hal-01770845/document
Figure 23 : Taux de recouvrement (%) de solutions hERG par rapport à une solution « Cal » de même concentration en CLHP-UV .
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Note added at 1 heure (2023-06-22 15:25:13 GMT)
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Probing the Interaction Between Inactivation Gating and
University of Oxford
https://www.robots.ox.ac.uk › ~thomas › Numa...
by H Numaguchi · 2000 · Cited by 112 — In summary, the findings suggest that extracellular Na hastens the development of HERG inactivation during depolarization and the ****rate of recovery****
I don't know if this is relevant
Discussion
does this "process" ("expérience") include "recovering" something? Like "recovering" a substance from a solution to measure its concentration?
With what you have given so far overlap (between ?? and ??) could make as much sense as "recovery" (of ?? from ??).
Without knowing which variables are measured and their interconnections, it's very easy to make apparently plausible but totally wrong assumptions.
What are the "expériences" and the "méthode en routine"?