Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
la Statique
English translation:
timing of demoulding (of concrete) dictated by static strength requirements
Added to glossary by
Christine Birch
Feb 8, 2022 21:04
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French term
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la Statique
French to English
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Construction / Civil Engineering
Hi all,
Is 'la Statique' some kind of building regulation? In this section of a progress report on a large building project I have this sentence about colour variation in paint:
Les variations de teintes entre éléments demeurent tributaires des conditions météorologiques lors du bétonnage( température, hygrométrie, etc ...) et des temps de décoffrage imposés par la statique.
Apart from a regulation, I don't have any ideas of what it might be in this context.
Any help gratefully appreciated.
Thank you.
Is 'la Statique' some kind of building regulation? In this section of a progress report on a large building project I have this sentence about colour variation in paint:
Les variations de teintes entre éléments demeurent tributaires des conditions météorologiques lors du bétonnage( température, hygrométrie, etc ...) et des temps de décoffrage imposés par la statique.
Apart from a regulation, I don't have any ideas of what it might be in this context.
Any help gratefully appreciated.
Thank you.
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +1 | timing of demoulding (of concrete) dictated by static strength requirements |
Daryo
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| 3 | static load |
Marco Solinas
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| 4 -1 | static equilibrium |
Bourth
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| 2 | static requirements |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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Proposed translations
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French term (edited):
temps de décoffrage imposés par la statique
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timing of demoulding (of concrete) dictated by static strength requirements
it takes several weeks before before freshly poured concrete gets it "final / full static strength"
There is a pretty predicable curve showing how strong (capable to take a static load) the concrete is after 1, 2, 3 .. weeks.
so
"temps de décoffrage imposés par la statique"
basically means that depending on what "static strength" is required before the concrete can can be demoulded, there is a different minimum waiting time.
IOW some concrete elements may be demoulded after say only 2 weeks, other after 4 weeks, which can result in different shades of colour.
CL5++ about the meaning.
There is a pretty predicable curve showing how strong (capable to take a static load) the concrete is after 1, 2, 3 .. weeks.
so
"temps de décoffrage imposés par la statique"
basically means that depending on what "static strength" is required before the concrete can can be demoulded, there is a different minimum waiting time.
IOW some concrete elements may be demoulded after say only 2 weeks, other after 4 weeks, which can result in different shades of colour.
CL5++ about the meaning.
Peer comment(s):
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Bourth
: I'll be polite and give you a neutral.
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If you are convinced that this interpretation of this ST is wrong, what that would be based on? Some glossary entry? Just curious to know ...
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| agree |
Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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Thanks!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Many thanks. Very helpful."
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Marco Solinas
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88
static load
I think they mean that the time of removal of the forms is determined by the static load of the concrete.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
chris collister
: "Statics" (as opposed to "dynamics") is possibly more general than "static load" though I daresay that's the general idea
36 mins
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| neutral |
Daryo
: very roughly that // ...is determined by the static strength i.e. the capacity of the concrete to take static loads without cracking / being crushed..// the concrete has as own property "strength" vs "loads" that are external.
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static equilibrium
'Statique' is short for 'équilibre statique', the be-all and end-all of 'what makes a structure stay up'.
"An object is in static equilibrium if and only if:
- The sum of the forces on it in each direction is zero.
- The sum of the torques on it in each direction is zero.
- Its linear momentum is zero (i.e. it's not moving).
http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys311.old/lectures/static/sta...
A member made of concrete on which the structure depends for its static equilibrium can only be stripped of its formwork when it has hardened sufficiently to withstand the forces applied to it.
"LA STATIQUE – FORCES ET EQUILIBRES
[ ... ]
L'équilibre statique
Un corps est en équilibre statique (ou au repos) lorsqu’il est maintenu complètement immobile par l'ensemble des forces qui agissent sur lui."
https://www.afblum.be/prive/physique/4SGUAA3.pdf
"Chapitre 3: - Principe fondamental de la statique
I- Introduction Introduction
Le but de ce chapitre est de savoir résoudre un problème d’équilibre statique.
1) Statique Statique
C’est la partie de la mécanique qui concerne l’étude des efforts en absence de mouvement.
La statique s’intéressera au calcul des efforts aux liaisons."
https://passyts4.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/chapitre-3-meca...
"An object is in static equilibrium if and only if:
- The sum of the forces on it in each direction is zero.
- The sum of the torques on it in each direction is zero.
- Its linear momentum is zero (i.e. it's not moving).
http://spiff.rit.edu/classes/phys311.old/lectures/static/sta...
A member made of concrete on which the structure depends for its static equilibrium can only be stripped of its formwork when it has hardened sufficiently to withstand the forces applied to it.
"LA STATIQUE – FORCES ET EQUILIBRES
[ ... ]
L'équilibre statique
Un corps est en équilibre statique (ou au repos) lorsqu’il est maintenu complètement immobile par l'ensemble des forces qui agissent sur lui."
https://www.afblum.be/prive/physique/4SGUAA3.pdf
"Chapitre 3: - Principe fondamental de la statique
I- Introduction Introduction
Le but de ce chapitre est de savoir résoudre un problème d’équilibre statique.
1) Statique Statique
C’est la partie de la mécanique qui concerne l’étude des efforts en absence de mouvement.
La statique s’intéressera au calcul des efforts aux liaisons."
https://passyts4.files.wordpress.com/2015/09/chapitre-3-meca...
Peer comment(s):
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Daryo
: in its own, it's related to all you quoted // in this ST "la statique" is used as a shorthand that has nothing to do with any kind of "equilibrium".
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
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Native in: English 
Works in: French to English
Related KudoZ points
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50
static requirements
I know strictly nothing at all about this field. However, this suggestion is being made on one of the ways French often employs "le/la + noun" to point to a generality. English typically makes use of a plural form in such cases. So, "statics" does not really make much sense to me but "static requirements" would. Just putting this up as a suggestion based on no more and no less than what I have explained here, which explains the low confidence level. That said, it is about as specific - or not - as the French.
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Note added at 22 hrs (2022-02-09 19:18:08 GMT)
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And also bearing in mind the use of "imposées par" that comes just before.
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Note added at 22 hrs (2022-02-09 19:18:08 GMT)
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And also bearing in mind the use of "imposées par" that comes just before.
Peer comment(s):
| neutral |
Daryo
: pretty close, but you can't really omit "strength" as you also have static "loads".
20 hrs
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Discussion
When building columns, for example, we place the formwork in the shape of the column and then fill it up with concrete. Then we remove the formwork when the concrete is strong enough to stay up on its own. So in this context, it probably means strength. Thus, here the time it take to reach the minimum strength required to remove the formwork. Strength is the main factor controlling the formwork removal time. Some people leave it on a bit longer to preserve the humidity of the concrete and prevent it from drying although it's not that common.
I wonder if you could get round this by saying "different drying times".
Every one of these "steps" is slightly different, so the final "shade" of colour of the finished concrete elements is never perfectly the same.