Glossary entry (derived from question below)
German term or phrase:
Gebirgsdarstellung (Langzeit-EKG)
English translation:
waterfall presentation, mountain representation (Holter monitoring)
Added to glossary by
Anne Schulz
Feb 6, 2021 09:08
3 yrs ago
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German term
Gebirge
German to English
Medical
Medical: Cardiology
What does Gebirge mean in this context?
Die Gebirgsdarstellung dient der sicheren Auswertung des Herzrhythmus.
Thanks for your help.
Die Gebirgsdarstellung dient der sicheren Auswertung des Herzrhythmus.
Thanks for your help.
Proposed translations
(English)
4 +3 | waterfall presentation | Anne Schulz |
5 +1 | mountain representation | Johannes Gleim |
4 | bar graph | Cillie Swart |
Change log
Feb 11, 2021 06:43: Anne Schulz Created KOG entry
Proposed translations
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German term (edited):
Gebirgsdarstellung
Selected
waterfall presentation
"Gebirge" refers to the graphic elements seen in this presentation, in English they are obviously seen as "waterfalls". The company using this terminology has a bilingual website to draw on.
Einzigartig ist die Gebirgsdarstellung, die jeden EKG-Schlag einer Schlagklasse, wie auf einer Perlenschnur aufgezogen, übersichtlich und präzise darstellt.
A unique feature is the “waterfall presentation” which clearly and precisely displays each ECG beat in a beat class, like on a string of beats.
https://www.medset.com/en/products/holter-ecg/
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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2021-02-07 11:03:41 GMT) Post-grading
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Quite an interesting situation. Johannes' arguments definitely support the use of "mountain" presentation for "Gebirgsdarstellung", yet, this term was not used by the manufacturer of the ECG software, although as a literal equivalent, it would really thrust itself upon any translator as first choice to look into.
More often than not, English is first with technical manuals, and other languages are translations. Is it possible that the English author chose an inadequate technical term ("waterfall"), and the German translator was smart enough to correct this? But still all distributors and copycats used "waterfall" in English, but "mountain" in German?
If so, you would have the unique chance to formulate the first technically correct English document about this type of Holter ECG analysis, Brent ;-))
Einzigartig ist die Gebirgsdarstellung, die jeden EKG-Schlag einer Schlagklasse, wie auf einer Perlenschnur aufgezogen, übersichtlich und präzise darstellt.
A unique feature is the “waterfall presentation” which clearly and precisely displays each ECG beat in a beat class, like on a string of beats.
https://www.medset.com/en/products/holter-ecg/
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Note added at 1 day 1 hr (2021-02-07 11:03:41 GMT) Post-grading
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Quite an interesting situation. Johannes' arguments definitely support the use of "mountain" presentation for "Gebirgsdarstellung", yet, this term was not used by the manufacturer of the ECG software, although as a literal equivalent, it would really thrust itself upon any translator as first choice to look into.
More often than not, English is first with technical manuals, and other languages are translations. Is it possible that the English author chose an inadequate technical term ("waterfall"), and the German translator was smart enough to correct this? But still all distributors and copycats used "waterfall" in English, but "mountain" in German?
If so, you would have the unique chance to formulate the first technically correct English document about this type of Holter ECG analysis, Brent ;-))
Note from asker:
Thanks, Anne :) |
Peer comment(s):
agree |
Ramey Rieger (X)
: You should know! Hope you're well, Anne.
2 mins
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To be honest, I don't - never heard of "Gebirgsdarstellung" before ;-) But the first G-hit for "Gebirgsdarstellung" was this bilingual website with informative graphics. Hope you're well, too!
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neutral |
philgoddard
: I'm not convinced by this. The translation is not very good, and why do mountains become waterfalls?
4 hrs
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agree |
Marga Shaw
: There are quite a few good references around, for both 'Gebirgsdarstellung' and 'waterfall presentation/plot/diagram'.
6 hrs
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disagree |
Johannes Gleim
: Die Übersetzung von Medset ist eindeutig falsch. Wasserfalldiagramme sehen anders aus.
10 hrs
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agree |
Lancashireman
: https://totalmedicalsolutions.nl/electrophysiology/cable-fre...
10 hrs
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agree |
Kim Metzger
12 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks again for your quick response. "
7 hrs
bar graph
as in bar graph presentation of heart beat instead of just a line.
Peer comment(s):
neutral |
Marga Shaw
: I don't think that it is a bar graph presentation.
7 mins
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neutral |
Lancashireman
: Bing-bing! When you're guessing on this forum, you're supposed to set your confidence level at 1.
24 mins
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+1
11 hrs
German term (edited):
Gebirgsdarstellung
mountain representation
Die Übersetzung von medset "Gebirgsdarstellung" => "waterfall presentation" ist schon auf den ersten Anhieb zweifelhaft. (Sieht nicht nach "Wasserfall" aus) "Wasserfall" wäre eine Treppenfunktion. Auf deutsch: Wasserfalldiagramm.
Wasserfalldiagramme sind spezielle Typen von Säulendiagrammen. Ein typisches Wasserfalldiagramm zeigt, wie ein Anfangswert durch eine Serie von weiteren Werten erhöht und/oder verringert wird, und so zu einem Endwert führt.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserfalldiagramm
(Anmerkung: die dargestellten "Gebirgsdarstellungen" zeigen weder Ähnlichkeiten mit "Wasserfalldiagrammen" noch streben sie einem Endwert zu)
A waterfall chart is a form of data visualization that helps in understanding the cumulative effect of sequentially introduced positive or negative values.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfall_chart
So sieht eine
Eine andere Methode ist die "Gebirgsdarstellung". Sie reiht die erfaßten QRS-Komplexe einer Gruppe zusammen mit ihrer EKG-Umgebung hintereinander. Es entsteht der Eindruck eines dreidimensionalen „Gebirges“. Anhand dieser Reihendarstellung lassen sich sofort „Abweichler“ erkennen und umbenennen.
https://books.google.de/books?id=bcSIBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA73&lpg=PA...
If the information is rendered graphically, however, human analysts can assimilate it and gain insight at a much faster rate. RNA fundamentals, standard visualization methods (string, bracket dot, dot plot, mountain representation) and software tools which adopt these are presented in this paper.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/oai2?verb=ListRecords&resumptio...
Recent views on mountain representation and analysis of management techniques. The multiple band and bond technique is often adopted with a lingual arch for retention. Chronic hypersensitivity considered the standard technique to confirm analysis of pneumonitis presents with more extreme and chronic bronchiectasis.
https://plotki.plportal.pl/?q=artykuly/polityka/ryszard-czar...
Aligned mountain representations m(k) of the RNA secondary structure of 13 complete HCV genomes. Peaks and plateaux in the mountain representation correspond to hairpins and unpaired regions in the secondary structure.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Aligned-mountain-represe...
Mountain representation of the secondary structure of the 5' end of seven HIV-1 sequences (HIVLAI, HIVOYI, HIVBCSG3C: dotted line, HIVELI, HIVDNK: dashed line, HIVANT70: solid line, HIVMAL: long-dashed line)
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Mountain-representation-...
Figure 1:
:
A convenient way of displaying the size and distribution of secondary structure elements is a generalized version of the mountain representation introduce by Hogeweg and Hesper (1984)
:
Figure 2: Generalized mountain representation mk of HIV-1 LAI obtained from the full base par probabilitiy matrix.
:
Figure 7 Generalized mountain representation of the 5’ end of HIV-1 LAI RNA
:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Stadler3/publicat...
To test how our topological indices can help with deleterious RNA mutation analysis, we analyzed the precursor of human miRNA miR-30a (pre-miR-30a), a stem-loop of 71 nt (Figure 6A). Figure 6B shows its mountain representation [63].
https://bmcbioinformatics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186...
Wasserfalldiagramme sind spezielle Typen von Säulendiagrammen. Ein typisches Wasserfalldiagramm zeigt, wie ein Anfangswert durch eine Serie von weiteren Werten erhöht und/oder verringert wird, und so zu einem Endwert führt.
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wasserfalldiagramm
(Anmerkung: die dargestellten "Gebirgsdarstellungen" zeigen weder Ähnlichkeiten mit "Wasserfalldiagrammen" noch streben sie einem Endwert zu)
A waterfall chart is a form of data visualization that helps in understanding the cumulative effect of sequentially introduced positive or negative values.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Waterfall_chart
So sieht eine
Eine andere Methode ist die "Gebirgsdarstellung". Sie reiht die erfaßten QRS-Komplexe einer Gruppe zusammen mit ihrer EKG-Umgebung hintereinander. Es entsteht der Eindruck eines dreidimensionalen „Gebirges“. Anhand dieser Reihendarstellung lassen sich sofort „Abweichler“ erkennen und umbenennen.
https://books.google.de/books?id=bcSIBwAAQBAJ&pg=PA73&lpg=PA...
If the information is rendered graphically, however, human analysts can assimilate it and gain insight at a much faster rate. RNA fundamentals, standard visualization methods (string, bracket dot, dot plot, mountain representation) and software tools which adopt these are presented in this paper.
http://citeseerx.ist.psu.edu/oai2?verb=ListRecords&resumptio...
Recent views on mountain representation and analysis of management techniques. The multiple band and bond technique is often adopted with a lingual arch for retention. Chronic hypersensitivity considered the standard technique to confirm analysis of pneumonitis presents with more extreme and chronic bronchiectasis.
https://plotki.plportal.pl/?q=artykuly/polityka/ryszard-czar...
Aligned mountain representations m(k) of the RNA secondary structure of 13 complete HCV genomes. Peaks and plateaux in the mountain representation correspond to hairpins and unpaired regions in the secondary structure.
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Aligned-mountain-represe...
Mountain representation of the secondary structure of the 5' end of seven HIV-1 sequences (HIVLAI, HIVOYI, HIVBCSG3C: dotted line, HIVELI, HIVDNK: dashed line, HIVANT70: solid line, HIVMAL: long-dashed line)
https://www.researchgate.net/figure/Mountain-representation-...
Figure 1:
:
A convenient way of displaying the size and distribution of secondary structure elements is a generalized version of the mountain representation introduce by Hogeweg and Hesper (1984)
:
Figure 2: Generalized mountain representation mk of HIV-1 LAI obtained from the full base par probabilitiy matrix.
:
Figure 7 Generalized mountain representation of the 5’ end of HIV-1 LAI RNA
:
https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Peter_Stadler3/publicat...
To test how our topological indices can help with deleterious RNA mutation analysis, we analyzed the precursor of human miRNA miR-30a (pre-miR-30a), a stem-loop of 71 nt (Figure 6A). Figure 6B shows its mountain representation [63].
https://bmcbioinformatics.biomedcentral.com/articles/10.1186...
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