Glossary entry (derived from question below)
French term or phrase:
artisans du conseil
English translation:
a truly bespoke consultancy service
Added to glossary by
Julie FOLTZ
Jul 3, 2013 12:06
10 yrs ago
French term
France
Accuracy & timeliness
Native in: French 
Works in: English to French, Spanish to French, French
artisans du conseil
French to English
Marketing
Business/Commerce (general)
Je suis preneuse de vos suggestions. Cela concerne une entreprise qui travaille dans l'aménagement du territoire.
Le message qu'ils souhaitent transmettre c'est qu'ils s'adaptent à leurs clients.
Le message qu'ils souhaitent transmettre c'est qu'ils s'adaptent à leurs clients.
Proposed translations
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Change log
Jul 3, 2013 13:36: writeaway changed "Field" from "Other" to "Marketing" , "Field (specific)" from "Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc." to "Business/Commerce (general)"
Proposed translations
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a truly bespoke consultancy service
By "artisans du conseil" they mean they offer a carefully crafted, tailor-made service. They treat each client as differently as a craftsman approaches each of his works... There's plenty of room for imagination here.
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Karl A. Wilson
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Thanks Karl
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Wolf Draeger
: It's a neat solution, but maybe a bit outdated, and bespoke repeats "sur mesure" & "adapté à vos besoins" later on.
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for all your answers.
I had suggested "craftsmen" but my customer didn't like it."
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1 hr
Jean-Claude Gouin
Canada
Canada
Native in French
Canada
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Native in: French
Works in: French to English, English to French, French, and 1 more.
Related KudoZ points
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34
consultants
consultants (in English) = experts-conseils
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: see d box for context. Asker has provided the full context.
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Like you say ... more context would be very useful. Artisans du conseil = experts-conseils = consultants (IMHO)
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: I agree with this one as in ordinary English, "consultant" already places the individual on the level of an expert, a specialist in the field.
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A great big THANK YOU, Nikki ...
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expert consultants
It would be helpful to see the term in context, but here is a suggestion.
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"Our Expert Consultants
At the heart of our approach to serving our clients is an appreciation for the realities of their challenges, constraints, and opportunities. By balancing our extensive subject matter expertise and a leading-edge understanding of best practices in managing knowledge, information, and technology, we are able to create innovative, elegant, and, most importantly, effective solutions."
http://www.ppc.com/about/our-expert-consultants.html
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Given the additional context, I would stick with my original term, but I would restructure the sentence a bit, something along these lines:
Our expert consultants rely on experience, expertise and proven methodological tools to provide you ...
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We are expert consultants who rely on experience, expertise and proven methodological tools to provide you...
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Note added at 18 mins (2013-07-03 12:25:20 GMT)
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"Our Expert Consultants
At the heart of our approach to serving our clients is an appreciation for the realities of their challenges, constraints, and opportunities. By balancing our extensive subject matter expertise and a leading-edge understanding of best practices in managing knowledge, information, and technology, we are able to create innovative, elegant, and, most importantly, effective solutions."
http://www.ppc.com/about/our-expert-consultants.html
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Note added at 1 hr (2013-07-03 13:51:58 GMT)
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Given the additional context, I would stick with my original term, but I would restructure the sentence a bit, something along these lines:
Our expert consultants rely on experience, expertise and proven methodological tools to provide you ...
OR
We are expert consultants who rely on experience, expertise and proven methodological tools to provide you...
Peer comment(s):
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writeaway
: context: Véritables artisans du conseil, nous nous appuyons sur notre expérience, notre expertise et des outils méthodologiques aboutis pour vous proposer des prestations
sur mesure et adaptées à vos besoins.
agree your original answer needs improving
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Thank you for pointing out the additional context.
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philgoddard
: Your suggested translation needs improving, though - you can't say "EXPERT consultants who rely on EXPERience [and] EXPERTise." Maybe something like "expert consultants who rely on proven know-how and methodology."
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Thanks, Phil. My suggested translation does indeed appear a bit awkward to me after a second reading. Yours works very well here.
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mill2
: with philgoddard
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Nikki Scott-Despaigne
: A "consultant" is by his/her very nature holding him/herself out to be an expert, but it might be necessary to embellish in this way to convey the original meaning.
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skilled consultants
Someone who is an artisan has skills, whatever his activity.
"We understand that there are financial limitations that IT Managers have to work within. Olav's highly skilled consultants are generally able to work within your budget."
"We understand that there are financial limitations that IT Managers have to work within. Olav's highly skilled consultants are generally able to work within your budget."
Reference:
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22 hrs
attentive and dedicated
A craftsman is attentive and dedicated to his work. The notions of skill and expertise are mentioned or implied further on, so I don't think one needs to repeat them at the beginning.
"sur mesure"and "adaptées à vos besoins" are tautological (as is so much of marketing speak), so I suggest "quality" in my 2nd example sentence.
"sur mesure"and "adaptées à vos besoins" are tautological (as is so much of marketing speak), so I suggest "quality" in my 2nd example sentence.
Example sentence:
Attentive and dedicated, we rely on our experience, our expertise and cutting-edge methodology to offer you a tailor-made service customised to your needs.
Attentive and dedicated, we rely on our experience, our expertise and cutting-edge methodology to offer you a quality service customised to your needs.
Peer comment(s):
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Yvonne Gallagher
: just 1 "our" and replace "customised" with "crafted" "offer you a tailor-made service crafted to your needs"
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Yes - thanks gallagy // "crafted to your needs" is v. good :)
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Lara Barnett
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in English
Specializes in field
United Kingdom
www.lingocraft.co.uk
Native in: English (Variants: Irish, Singaporean, UK, South African, British, Scottish) 
Works in: French to English, Italian to English, Romanian to English, and 2 more.
Related KudoZ points
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44
Craftsmen of consulting
I think this is a very positive way of describing the idea that is obviously being suggested here.
For example:
"We are true craftsmen of consulting..."
For example:
"We are true craftsmen of consulting..."
Discussion
Véritables artisans du conseil, nous nous appuyons sur notre expérience, notre expertise et des outils méthodologiques aboutis pour vous proposer des prestations sur mesure et adaptées à vos besoins.
Notre capacité à travailler avec une vraie diversité de clients (de la commune à la Commission Européenne, tout autant que les acteurs privés) permet de bien appréhender les enjeux liés à vos demandes et à éclairer vos décisions dans un environnement de plus en plus complexe et instable.