Jan 17, 2011 20:23
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Spanish term

atraso escolar

Spanish to English Other Social Science, Sociology, Ethics, etc. education
la provincia pasó de ser el símbolo de la desnutrición infantil, y la indigencia, y el atraso escolar, a una de las más avanzadas del país y del Continente, con cifras modelo en desarrollo,salud,educación y otros campos,

I know what it means (falling behind in school) but I can´t come up with the term in this context
Thanks
References
CEPAL/ECLAC documents

Discussion

Muriel Vasconcellos Jan 18, 2011:
Source of 'school backwardness' Guys, I didn't get my inspiration from the Internet - it's a term that I have used and seen used in documents of the World Health Organization. I never claimed it was a "popular" term.
Charles Davis Jan 18, 2011:
Google hits May I just insert a word of caution here about numbers of Google hits, having been caught out this way myself? For reasons that are beyond me, the number of hits Google reports when you do a search is often grossly exaggerated. If you work your way through to the end (or jump to page 10, or whatever), you often find there are far fewer than reported. In this case, which I have just tested, there actually turn out to be 149 results for "school backwardness" and (amazingly) only 97 for "backwardness at school". So not even the relative frequency is reliable. I wish Google didn't do this.
Bubo Coroman (X) Jan 18, 2011:
Greg As you say, "school backwardness" is not so much used (1,070 Google hits) and for that reason I would go for the variant "backwardness at school" (36,900 hits)
Greg Hunt Jan 18, 2011:
Again, the examples are interesting: the text was published by UNESCO but drafted by Peru's Ministerio de Educación. It may be the correct term, but I'm not seeing strong evidence that that is the case, and I think there's little doubt that "atraso escolar" is a relatively familiar term whereas "school backwardness" is not, at least to the layman. It's a common phenomenon, and so there should be plenty of references to it, right? It'd be more convincing to see some recent references to texts written by native speakers - if so, "agree" all the way.
Bubo Coroman (X) Jan 18, 2011:
Greg the terms "school backwardness" and "retraso escolar" are used in this UNESCO text http://www.google.co.uk/search?sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8&q="s...

and the variant "backwardness at school" appears as "retraso escolar" in several online dictionaries including this one authored by the European Communities http://www.vocabularyserver.com/eurovoc/en/index.php?tema=36...
Muriel Vasconcellos Jan 18, 2011:
@Greg - re school backwardness. It's a term I was trained to use as PAHO/WHO staff. I think my examples are somewhat stronger than you suggest. Some are contemporary. The Polish author uses it as the title of his book, which is being promoted by SprinkerLink, and those books are vetted.
Greg Hunt Jan 18, 2011:
school backwardness I agreed with "poor academic performance" yesterday and I'd probably still go for that or Charles's (and your own) "falling behind at school" - Charles makes a decent argument for it. I think it is interesting that "school backwardness" does appear in relevant literature, but I note that there are relatively few results on Google (1100 and not all of them relevant) and almost all of these seem to be texts which were written by non-native speakers or are very old (one of the references below is from a text which is more than 100 years old). The top result in Google is a journal article written by a Polish academic 42 years ago. It seems to me to be a linguistic calque.
Wendy Gosselin (asker) Jan 17, 2011:
It seems a bit more specific than poor academic performance...like getting demoted or not getting promoted??
jacana54 (X) Jan 17, 2011:
Lo entiendo como sinónimo de "rezago": los estudios se prolongan más de lo previsto o estalbecido.

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poor academic performance

Malnutrition and poor academic performance: critical contributions
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agree Phoebe Anne
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agree Robert Copeland
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agree Jenni Lukac (X)
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agree Noni Gilbert Riley
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school backwardness

It sounds weird, but this is the sociological term. See the following "serious" examples:

Etiology of school backwardness
by J Konopnicki - 1969 - Cited by 1 - Related articles
School backwardness is one of the main social calamities of our time. ... School backwardness is a process which, if it is allowed to develop, ...
www.springerlink.com/index/V15277LUW4Q4H0N5.pdf

Data from the 2000 Population Census were used to construct two sets of multilevel logistic regression models to quantify the risk of school backwardness ...
blds.ids.ac.uk/cf/opaccf/detailed.cfm?RN=300674

Indeed, it is probable that general school backwardness is more frequent in emotionally maladjusted children than is backwardness in reading alone. ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0521144418...

... using the individualized care project, should avoid this absenteeism, which is responsible of school backwardness and difficulties in choosing careers. ...
www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15301809

These courses covered a wide range of childhood disorders such as developmental disorders, emotional and behavioural problems, school backwardness, ...
www.emro.who.int/publications/emhj/0203/16.htm

... were the most significant factors accounting for school backwardness and truancy.35 In order to remedy these problems, legislation was enacted allowing ...
books.google.com/books?isbn=0765804565...

the role which physical defects play in inducing school backwardness, as compared with other factors relating to the child's actual school history. ...
www.jstor.org/stable/1077400
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agree James A. Walsh : I had agreed with the other answerer, but I reckon this is spot on (I'm assuming Lat. Am. is the continent)
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agree jacana54 (X) : I think this must be right, it's a specific term. I'm including a reference. Saludos!
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agree Bubo Coroman (X) : or the more common variant "backwardness at school"
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agree Toni Castano
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falling behind at school

Just another idea. I think, from all the references I've seen, that "atraso escolar" means the same in Mexico as in Spain; it doesn't mean that the schools are backward, but that the pupils are falling behind the level they should be attaining: failing to keep up, and indeed having to repeat failed years of study. In discussions of this issue in the UK, at least, the expression "falling behind at school" seems to crop up all over the place. It seems to me a natural expression in the context.
I think "educational backwardness", suggested on an earlier occasion in KudoZ (http://www.proz.com/kudoz/spanish_to_english/education_pedag... , is also worth considering, but to me it tends to imply that the educational system itself is backward in that area, and I don't think that's what they're saying.

"El síndrome del atraso escolar y el abandono del sistema educativo
Se recogió una muestra de 1 840 niños en edad escolar distribuidos por igual entre estudiantes de escuelas primarias que cursaban el grado siguiente a aquél en que se encontraban el año anterior. y niños que estaban repitiendo el mismo grado o habían abandonado la escuela. El diseño muestral abarcó distintos tipos de escuelas primarias en tres entidades federativas. Se hicieron análisis multivariados para determinar las características que distinguen a los alumnos regulares de los repetidores y desertores. Se observó también una muestra de grupos escolares, con el fin de identificar algunos efectos que produce la interacción entre maestros y alumnos, en el avance escolar de estos últimos. Se llegó a diversas conclusiones que pueden ser utilizadas por los planificadores del sistema educativo con el fin de mejorar la eficiencia de 181 escuelas primaria del país."
Article on Mexico in Revista latinoamericana de estudios educativos,
http://dialnet.unirioja.es/servlet/articulo?codigo=2237855

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Wendy: on more careful reading of your question I see you had already thought of almost exactly this phrase in the first place, before asking, so I take it you were not happy with it. However, I urge you to reconsider. I think it would work fine in your context, and is the most natural way of expressing the idea of not just achieving poor results, but failing to keep up at all, leading to repeating years and eventually dropping out. Or perhaps, after all, the dreaded word "failure" should be brought in here!
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agree Muriel Vasconcellos : I like it.
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agree Daphne Consigliere, R.N. : i agree this is the right term, however, how would you say: tasa de atraso escolar?
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Good question! Perhaps "rate of school failure", but I'm not entirely sure, frankly. Thanks, Daphne, and Happy New Year!
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"late development" at school

a "late developer" is a pupil who only reaches the normal standard for his or her age late in his or her school career... my mother was one of these.
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poor educational standards

cheers
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agree Marian Vieyra
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education gap

I've never heard or used "backwardness" when referring to education as it involves a judgement on the one hand and fault on the other, which would never be acceptable in the UK education system. This is perhaps an EU, NGO (Unesco) or N. American way of putting it.

I like jude69's 'poor educational standards', which is what I'm getting at too.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

CEPAL/ECLAC documents

http://www.eclac.org/cgi-bin/getProd.asp?xml=/revista/notici...

"This article analyses a dimension that is almost completely absent
from studies on the socio-territorial mechanisms that reproduce inequalities
in Brazil: differences in the risk of school backwardness among children
and young people between 7 and 17 years of age, based on residential
segregation in Rio de Janeiro. Data from the 2000 Population Census
were used to construct two sets of multilevel logistic regression models to
quantify the risk of ***school backwardness*** among primary school students in fourth and eighth grade, according to individual characteristics, family socioeducational conditions and the social setting of their place of residence.
Apart from showing that residence in a ghetto (favela) is associated with
a higher risk of ***school backwardness***, the results show that the risk of ***backwardness*** and school dropout is higher among inhabitants of favelas located in wealthy neighbourhoods. Possible explanatory mechanisms for these findings are reviewed."

Please compare with:

http://www.eclac.org/cgi-bin/getProd.asp?xml=/revista/notici...

"Este trabajo analiza una dimensión casi ausente en estudios sobre
los mecanismos socioterritoriales que reproducen las desigualdades en
Brasil: las diferencias en el riesgo de ***atraso escolar*** de niños y jóvenes de 7 a 17 años en función de la segregación residencial en Río de
Janeiro. Con datos del Censo Demográfico del 2000 se construyeron
dos conjuntos de modelos de regresión logística de niveles múltiples
para cuantificar el riesgo de atraso escolar de los alumnos de cuarto
y octavo año de la educación primaria, según las características
individuales, las condiciones socioeducativas familiares y el contexto
social del lugar de residencia. Los resultados, además de revelar una
relación entre la residencia en una favela y un mayor ***riesgo de atraso
escolar***, muestran que el riesgo de ***atraso*** y evasión escolares se
acentúa entre los habitantes de favelas localizadas en barrios ricos. Se
examinan posibles mecanismos explicativos de los hallazgos."
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