Jul 14, 2010 17:49
13 yrs ago
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Italian term
Italy
Native in: Italian (Variants: Genoese, Standard-Italy) 
Works in: French to Italian, English to Italian
Catasto o Conservatoria RR. II.
Italian to English
Law/Patents
Law (general)
Ho consultato tutte le occorrenze dei termini in oggetto presenti sul questo sito, notando come il più delle volte i due uffici vengano indifferentemente tradotti in inglese come "land registry", il che può però ingenerare pericolosi equivoci.
Quali soluzioni proponete?
Quali soluzioni proponete?
Proposed translations
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Land registry (Catasto) or Properties Register (Conservatoria Registri Immobiliari)
I would translate and leave the Italian terms in brackets as there is no precise equivalent outside Italy. I wanted to add an agree to Lanna's comment, but there wasn't enough room: but basically the conservatoria also holds the registered (iscritti) copies of mortgage deeds as well as deeds of sale. Also, a difference between the catasto and conservatoria is that the catasto may well not be up to date, with no effect on actual ownership, whereas the conservatoria is probatorio, and provides effective proof of ownership as the most recent deed of sale for a property will necessarily be registered.
Note from asker:
| As it has been pointed out the conservatoria does not hold actual copies of deeds; the conservatoria keeps track of deeds of sale and of judgements regarding real estate (property, easements, long rentings, etc.) |
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Lanna Castellano
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sensus verborum est anima legis
Native in: English
Works in: Italian to English, French to English
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Land Registry or Repository of deeds of sale of real property
The Land Registry is where you find entries of all the particulars of ownership, tax status, etc., and the Conservatoria is where you file the actual instruments of purchase/sale/transfer.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2010-07-14 22:22:13 GMT)
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Ypu're right that it's the deeds of sale that are kept in the Conservatoria, except for some from notarial chambers which no longer exist; it's the excerpts from documents of various kinds relating to the property (e.g. on transfers, liens, administrative and judicial matters), one purpose being historical continuity of the records.
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Note added at 4 hrs (2010-07-14 22:22:13 GMT)
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Ypu're right that it's the deeds of sale that are kept in the Conservatoria, except for some from notarial chambers which no longer exist; it's the excerpts from documents of various kinds relating to the property (e.g. on transfers, liens, administrative and judicial matters), one purpose being historical continuity of the records.
Note from asker:
| the definition of Catasto is correct, wheras I'm afraid the other one is not: the deeds of sale are kept by the public notary, and the "Ufficio del Registro" (I wonder how to translate that also) is where a copy of the instruments is filed. The Conservatoria actually only keeps record of a summary extract of the contract. P.S. "RR. II." literally stands for Register of Real Estates |
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Mr Murray (X)
: Excellent --- any idea what the RR. II means?
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Conservatoria dei Registri Immobiliari
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Discussion
putroppo però è di uso limitatissimo nel linguaggio comune, e così - ho notato - non sempre immediatamente comprensibile all'interlocutore inglese.
http://www.google.it/search?q=cadastre definition&ie=utf-8&o...