Feb 26, 2003 14:40
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"such as"
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Calling on any grammarian out there! What part of speech is "such as"? Pronoun, adverb, adverbial phrase? In a court case there is a dispute as to the precision of a patent claim, centering on what is called (in Italian) the indeterminate or indefinite article, "quali" (such as, or for example), followed by a list of items.
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The Bantam gives "such" as an adjective or an indefinite pronoun (tale, simile). " such as" = tale quale, come.
It also gives quale as an adjecive, pronoun, or prepostion.
HOwever, "come"(It) or "as" would be adverbs.
Swan refers to "such as" as an "exemplifier" in discourses. It seems to me that, in any case, "quale" o "come" o "per esempio" would all be synonymous for "such as".
It also gives quale as an adjecive, pronoun, or prepostion.
HOwever, "come"(It) or "as" would be adverbs.
Swan refers to "such as" as an "exemplifier" in discourses. It seems to me that, in any case, "quale" o "come" o "per esempio" would all be synonymous for "such as".
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Comment: "I've chosen this one as it pointed me towards what seems at least to it being a prepositional phrase, according to Fowler's modern English usage. But all the answers are so interesting (and so wide-ranging that they make me less ashamed of my grammatical doubts)! "
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'quali' in Italian is a pronoun
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The indefinite articles are \"un, uno, una\".
Maybe I have not understood your question.
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Note added at 2003-02-26 14:58:12 (GMT)
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The indefinite articles are \"un, uno, una\".
Maybe I have not understood your question.
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Yoshiro Shibasaki, PhD
: It's a "relative pronoun", not just a pronoun. it is diffrent.
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Roddy Stegemann
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descriptive conjunction
The principal component of the phrase "such as" is the word "as". Although the word "as" wears many grammatical hats in the English language, in this particular case it serves as a connecting word between that for which an example is given and the example itself. In the phrase "A such as B" "B" is an example of "A".
Taken from Hamo's Grammar Tips -- an unofficial source that has provided reasonable explanations for thousands of non-native speakers.
Taken from Hamo's Grammar Tips -- an unofficial source that has provided reasonable explanations for thousands of non-native speakers.
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Margaret Schroeder
: Confirmed in http://garbl.home.attbi.com/stylemanual/ithruj.htm (see entry under "I, me".)
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Thanks for the great link. I am very fond of the works of Gary Larson.
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Marie Scarano
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This is fantastic. Thanks. Maybe I should consider publishing Hamo's Grammar Tips someday.
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Kardi Kho
: just a note for GoodWords: Are you sure you have read the sentences in the link properly?? such as there is used for giving examples, not as one of the examples of the conjuction discussed.
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Please use your own space for notes to GoodWords. Your neutrality with regard to my response is an unexplained critique of Goodwords support -- not a critique of my response. Your future cooperation would be appreciated.
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glenntv
: Hi there. I am working with an SAT tutee 2 decades after this thread. I doubt this will be responded to, but I figure I'll give it a shot. If "such as" is an adverb, and adverbs modify adjectives, adverbs, and verbs, what "such as" modifying?
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Kemal Mustajbegovic
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(a) like - e.g. "Wild flowers such as orchids and primroses are becoming rare".
(b) everything that - e.g. "Such as remains after tax will be yours when I die".
Pronoun.
Oxford Dictionary
Regards!
(b) everything that - e.g. "Such as remains after tax will be yours when I die".
Pronoun.
Oxford Dictionary
Regards!
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First of all, I'm not a grammarian and I don't know what part of speech it is; what I know is 'such as' is usually known as a discourse marker.
A discourse marker is a word or expression which shows the connection between what is being said and the rest of the discourse (pieces of language longer than a sentence); here it is used to introduce particular examples to illustrate what has been said. Besides such as, you also have 'for example', 'for instance', 'in particular', etc.
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A discourse marker is a word or expression which shows the connection between what is being said and the rest of the discourse (pieces of language longer than a sentence); here it is used to introduce particular examples to illustrate what has been said. Besides such as, you also have 'for example', 'for instance', 'in particular', etc.
HTH
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David Knowles
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adverb/adverbial phrase
I think in this context, it's grammatically the same as "namely", which is an adverb.
Look at the constructions below to see the grammatical correspondence between "such as" and "namely".
Vegetables, such as potatoes, peas, carrots. [This is a non-exclusive list.]
Root vegetables, namely potatoes, carrots, parsnips. [This is a definitive list - any other root vegetables, such as (!) swedes are excluded.]
Look at the constructions below to see the grammatical correspondence between "such as" and "namely".
Vegetables, such as potatoes, peas, carrots. [This is a non-exclusive list.]
Root vegetables, namely potatoes, carrots, parsnips. [This is a definitive list - any other root vegetables, such as (!) swedes are excluded.]
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Yoshiro Shibasaki, PhD
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relative
"Such as" is classified as "relatives", which normally have an adjectival function.
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