Glossary entry

French term or phrase:

pris en crédit « après encaissement »

English translation:

credited after collection

Added to glossary by French2English
Jan 9, 2010 17:00
14 yrs ago
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French term

pris en crédit « après encaissement »

French to English Bus/Financial Finance (general) Current accounts
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Does this simply mean cheques which have been paid into someone's account but have not yet cleared? I am a bit confused by 'pris en credit' and 'apres encaissement' used together here.

La Banque s'assure que le Client dispose des fonds nécessaires pour effectuer le paiement. A ce titre, la Banque tient compte :
• Du solde du compte du Client, de tout découvert et / ou facilité de caisse et de chèques
versés sur le compte du Client pour autant qu'ils ne soient pas ****pris en crédit « après
encaissement » **** et
• Du montant total des paiements engagés comptabilisés mais aussi des paiements par
carte de paiement à débit immédiat, du montant total des paiements engagés qui ne sont
pas encore comptabilisés, et plus généralement des opérations en cours.

Proposed translations

1 hr
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credited after collection

My instinct is that this is saying that, in calculating the customer's balance, any cheques paid in will be taken into account as long as they do not have to go through an international clearing process before being properly credited to the account.

In this context, therefore, I suspect "encaissement" is equivalent to the EN term "collection" as applied to foreign cheques paid into a UK bank account.

I don't have to time to research this any more thoroughly, hence only a medium confidence rating, but here's one link that kind of supports my suggestion:

http://groupe.socgen.com/banks/fr/banks-financial-institutio...

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Note added at 1 hr (2010-01-09 18:36:17 GMT)
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See also http://www.lloydstsbcorporatemarkets.com/corporateservices/t...

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Note added at 23 hrs (2010-01-10 16:48:27 GMT)
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Having re-read this and thought about it after a fresh dose of coffee, I still feel this is the most likely interpretation, and that rkillings' phrasing is probably the most efficient way of putting it.
Note from asker:
Hi Rob, Thanks - what you suggest sounds very likely to me. And I don't think your brain is often very far out of gear, is it? :)
Peer comment(s):

neutral Julie Barber : My first thought would be that it means that incoming payments are not available/taken into account until after they have cleared. Or is that barking up the wrong tree?
5 hrs
Just read the FR - cheques are included as long as (pour autant que) they are not "pris en crédit après encaissement". If it meant what you suggest, I feel it would be said another way (much more simply).
neutral rkillings : credited subject to collection? The bank makes the funds available to you, but takes them back if the cheque later fails to clear.
11 hrs
Hi Bob, that may be what I was trying to say, but couldn't quite get my brain in gear last night. However, it would make more sense if it said "pour autant qu'ils soient pris en crédit..."
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Very helpful discussion here - initiated by Rob. Thanks to all contributors."
17 hrs

Further in debt after the cheque has been cleared.

I'm guessing but reading the text before my rendering could be possible.
Peer comment(s):

neutral Rob Grayson : Struggling to see how the given French ("pour autant qu'ils ne soient pas pris en crédit") could have this particular interpretation
6 hrs
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