Jan 4, 2010 21:33
14 yrs ago
French term
David Richards
Plaques de neige
Non-PRO
French to English
Other
Meteorology
Swiss Meteo warning
Proposed translations
(English)
| 4 +2 | sheets of snow |
Bourth (X)
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| 5 +3 | snow slab |
Hilary Wilson
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| 4 | plates of snow |
liz askew
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| 3 | stetches of deep snow |
Steve Melling
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| 3 -1 | patches of snow |
Claire Chapman
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| 4 -2 | deadman |
trebla
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Proposed translations
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sheets of snow
ROADS:
ATTENTION SUR LES ROUTES ce mardi matin. Il y a encore des PLAQUES DE NEIGE entre St Julien Chapteuil et Les Balayes.
http://www.zoom43.fr/actu/ACT_detail.asp?strId=37771
MOUNTAINS:
La rupture des PLAQUES DE NEIGE paraît être la cause principale de déclenchement d'AVALANCHES : elle peut survenir pendant toute la saison d'hiver, pour autant que les conditions telles que ['enneigement, la température, le vent, la topographie, soient favorables.
iahs.info/redbooks/a069/069020.pdf
AIRPORTS:
• [TRADUCTION]
Les pistes, les voies de circulation et les aires de trafic doivent être dégagées de façon que les aéronefs puissent atterrir, se déplacer et se stationner en toute sécurité. Cela signifie que la chaussée doit être exempte de PLAQUES DE NEIGE, de morceaux de glace et de tout autre corps étranger
http://www.bst.gc.ca/fra/rapports-reports/aviation/2001/a01h...
The English version gives:
Runways, taxiways and aprons must be cleared so that aircraft can land, taxi, and park safely. This means that the pavement is cleared of LUMPS OF SNOW, chunks of ice and other foreign objects
http://www.bst.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/aviation/2001/a01h...
This MeteoSuisse site suggests it's road snow:
Conséquences possibles
• PLAQUE DE glace et/ou DE NEIGE compacte ou verglas
• Risque de verglas/ PLAQUE DE NEIGE
http://www.meteosuisse.admin.ch/web/fr/dangers/details/vergl...
Assuming this is your case, I'd go for "sheets of snow", though in addition to sheets of snow forming naturally on roads, this also covers "chunks" or "slabs" of snow that have fallen off inadequately cleared snow-covered vehicles.
The Kansas Department of Transportation reports all roads in Douglas ... Crews and traffic seem to have cleared the SHEETS OF SNOW and ice ...
www2.ljworld.com/.../snow-falling-again-lawrence-accidents-reported-sli
But he never expected the raindrops would turn into SHEETS OF SNOW. ... Could not take the back road of Soledad Cyn road because that is ...
latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/.../another-storm-h.html
Large SHEETS OF SNOW that FALL OFF ONTO ROADS are HAZARDARDOUS FOR OTHER DRIVERS, and when they slide down and cover your windshield they are obviously ...
hubpages.com/.../Driving-on-Snow-and-Ice---Tips-and-Tricks
And SHEETS OF SNOW BLOWING OFF THE HOOD will blind you ... or the driver behind you .... Wait for the weather and roads to clear before you hit the highway. ...
www.goodadvicepress.com/badweatherdriving.htm
Yesterday morning as I was removing the SHEETS OF SNOW from the walks and the .... hauling debris, paving roads, leaf removal and fixing drainage problems. ...
articles.baltimoresun.com/keyword/snow-removal
Clear the rest to AVOID THROWING DANGEROUS SHEETS OF SNOW AND ICE WHILE DRIVING. ... If you must drive when the road is snowy or icy, plan your trips ...
www.communityalertonline.com/fa.aspx?ID=23
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Note added at 9 days (2010-01-14 15:06:16 GMT) Post-grading
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You want to watch out for those plaques de neige. Came down some stairs the other day, exercising appropriate caution, then obviously relaxed once my feet were on the ground since they slid out from under me and I a broke a rib falling backwards onto a planter. Pay attention to those weather reports!
ATTENTION SUR LES ROUTES ce mardi matin. Il y a encore des PLAQUES DE NEIGE entre St Julien Chapteuil et Les Balayes.
http://www.zoom43.fr/actu/ACT_detail.asp?strId=37771
MOUNTAINS:
La rupture des PLAQUES DE NEIGE paraît être la cause principale de déclenchement d'AVALANCHES : elle peut survenir pendant toute la saison d'hiver, pour autant que les conditions telles que ['enneigement, la température, le vent, la topographie, soient favorables.
iahs.info/redbooks/a069/069020.pdf
AIRPORTS:
• [TRADUCTION]
Les pistes, les voies de circulation et les aires de trafic doivent être dégagées de façon que les aéronefs puissent atterrir, se déplacer et se stationner en toute sécurité. Cela signifie que la chaussée doit être exempte de PLAQUES DE NEIGE, de morceaux de glace et de tout autre corps étranger
http://www.bst.gc.ca/fra/rapports-reports/aviation/2001/a01h...
The English version gives:
Runways, taxiways and aprons must be cleared so that aircraft can land, taxi, and park safely. This means that the pavement is cleared of LUMPS OF SNOW, chunks of ice and other foreign objects
http://www.bst.gc.ca/eng/rapports-reports/aviation/2001/a01h...
This MeteoSuisse site suggests it's road snow:
Conséquences possibles
• PLAQUE DE glace et/ou DE NEIGE compacte ou verglas
• Risque de verglas/ PLAQUE DE NEIGE
http://www.meteosuisse.admin.ch/web/fr/dangers/details/vergl...
Assuming this is your case, I'd go for "sheets of snow", though in addition to sheets of snow forming naturally on roads, this also covers "chunks" or "slabs" of snow that have fallen off inadequately cleared snow-covered vehicles.
The Kansas Department of Transportation reports all roads in Douglas ... Crews and traffic seem to have cleared the SHEETS OF SNOW and ice ...
www2.ljworld.com/.../snow-falling-again-lawrence-accidents-reported-sli
But he never expected the raindrops would turn into SHEETS OF SNOW. ... Could not take the back road of Soledad Cyn road because that is ...
latimesblogs.latimes.com/lanow/2008/.../another-storm-h.html
Large SHEETS OF SNOW that FALL OFF ONTO ROADS are HAZARDARDOUS FOR OTHER DRIVERS, and when they slide down and cover your windshield they are obviously ...
hubpages.com/.../Driving-on-Snow-and-Ice---Tips-and-Tricks
And SHEETS OF SNOW BLOWING OFF THE HOOD will blind you ... or the driver behind you .... Wait for the weather and roads to clear before you hit the highway. ...
www.goodadvicepress.com/badweatherdriving.htm
Yesterday morning as I was removing the SHEETS OF SNOW from the walks and the .... hauling debris, paving roads, leaf removal and fixing drainage problems. ...
articles.baltimoresun.com/keyword/snow-removal
Clear the rest to AVOID THROWING DANGEROUS SHEETS OF SNOW AND ICE WHILE DRIVING. ... If you must drive when the road is snowy or icy, plan your trips ...
www.communityalertonline.com/fa.aspx?ID=23
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Note added at 9 days (2010-01-14 15:06:16 GMT) Post-grading
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You want to watch out for those plaques de neige. Came down some stairs the other day, exercising appropriate caution, then obviously relaxed once my feet were on the ground since they slid out from under me and I a broke a rib falling backwards onto a planter. Pay attention to those weather reports!
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Hilary Wilson
: Given the available context, this is the correct answer, not slabs! or stretches of snow
2 hrs
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| agree |
Alphacen
: Thanks for the research! I'm no longer puzzled by the Meteosuisse's cryptic announcements!
9 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer.
Comment: "Thanks for the research! I'm no longer puzzled by the Meteosuisse's cryptic announcements!"
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12 mins
Claire Chapman
Native in English
All things textile
Native in: English 
Works in: French to English, English to French, English
patches of snow
French
Avec du vent et quelques plaques de neige, je allé jusqu'à cette cache ce samedi (3-5-2005) après midi.
English
With the wind and some patches of snow, I gone this hiding place this Saturday ( 3-5-2005 ) after noon.
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?lid=6834604
Avec du vent et quelques plaques de neige, je allé jusqu'à cette cache ce samedi (3-5-2005) après midi.
English
With the wind and some patches of snow, I gone this hiding place this Saturday ( 3-5-2005 ) after noon.
http://www.geocaching.com/seek/log.aspx?lid=6834604
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
Jean-Claude Gouin
: OR snow patches ...
32 mins
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Thank you, 1045
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| disagree |
liz askew
: much more serious than this.
1 hr
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| disagree |
Alan Douglas (X)
: No. "Snow slab" is the term used by mountaineers. It can also be referred to as a "wind slab" where wind blown snow overlays a more compacted/icy layer below, which can give rise to "wind slab avalanches".
12 hrs
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1 hr
plates of snow
#
FAQ | Utah Avalanche Center
What we normally call avalanches are "slabs" or cohesive plates of snow that shatter like a pane of glass and slide as a unit off the mountainside. ...
utahavalanchecenter.org/education/faq - United States - Cached - Similar
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SATSIE - Current instrumentation techniques for measuring snow ...
1 Oct 2003 ... Thus, the possibility arises that the nature of collisions within the avalanche can be inferred from the plates. However, because snow ...
www.leeds.ac.uk/satsie/instruments.html - Cached - Similar
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Avalanche
Dry slab avalanches account for nearly all the avalanche deaths in North America. A “slab” is a cohesive plate of snow that slides as a unit on the snow ...
www.avalanche.org/~uac/encyclopedia/avalanche.htm - Cached - Similar
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Cold Regions Science and Technology : Snow avalanche speed ...
by I Vilajosana - 2007 - Cited by 1
Earlier studies of speed determination of snow avalanches have been based ... Seismic and load plate data analyses indicated that in avalanche 2 the dense ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0165232X06001455
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Application of the snow cover model SNOWPACK to snow avalanche ...
by K NISHIMURA - 2005 - Cited by 3 - Related articles
... Observation data ; digital simulation ; stability ; Thick plate ; Snow ... Snow avalanche warning ; Snow cover simulation ; Snow stability evaluation ; ...
cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17286666
FAQ | Utah Avalanche Center
What we normally call avalanches are "slabs" or cohesive plates of snow that shatter like a pane of glass and slide as a unit off the mountainside. ...
utahavalanchecenter.org/education/faq - United States - Cached - Similar
#
SATSIE - Current instrumentation techniques for measuring snow ...
1 Oct 2003 ... Thus, the possibility arises that the nature of collisions within the avalanche can be inferred from the plates. However, because snow ...
www.leeds.ac.uk/satsie/instruments.html - Cached - Similar
#
Avalanche
Dry slab avalanches account for nearly all the avalanche deaths in North America. A “slab” is a cohesive plate of snow that slides as a unit on the snow ...
www.avalanche.org/~uac/encyclopedia/avalanche.htm - Cached - Similar
#
Cold Regions Science and Technology : Snow avalanche speed ...
by I Vilajosana - 2007 - Cited by 1
Earlier studies of speed determination of snow avalanches have been based ... Seismic and load plate data analyses indicated that in avalanche 2 the dense ...
linkinghub.elsevier.com/retrieve/pii/S0165232X06001455
#
Application of the snow cover model SNOWPACK to snow avalanche ...
by K NISHIMURA - 2005 - Cited by 3 - Related articles
... Observation data ; digital simulation ; stability ; Thick plate ; Snow ... Snow avalanche warning ; Snow cover simulation ; Snow stability evaluation ; ...
cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=17286666
-2
3 hrs
deadman
If this is in reference to mountain climbing, it could be a claque à neige, known in English as a deadman or snow fluke.
Termium gives the following definition:
Snow flukes
(deadmen) are used as protective devices and belay anchors. These are metal plates flat angled, fitted with nylon or wire slings. Bury them in the snow or drive them in at about forty-five degrees uphill from the line of pull, with the open side of the angle toward the slope. A pull on the wire should drive the fluke deeper.
Termium gives the following definition:
Snow flukes
(deadmen) are used as protective devices and belay anchors. These are metal plates flat angled, fitted with nylon or wire slings. Bury them in the snow or drive them in at about forty-five degrees uphill from the line of pull, with the open side of the angle toward the slope. A pull on the wire should drive the fluke deeper.
Peer comment(s):
| disagree |
Alan Douglas (X)
: A "deadman" is a metal plate approx 30cm square on 3 sides, pointed on 4th side with steel cable attached at centre. It is used by alpinists as a snow anchor or belay point.
8 hrs
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| disagree |
B D Finch
: Why assume two typos and a reference to a specific piece of mountain climbing equipment in a weather report?
9 hrs
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10 hrs
Steve Melling
France
France
Native in English
France
12 years' experience
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, Italian to English, Spanish to English, and 1 more.
stetches of deep snow
I have never heard of slabs of snow. Sorry.
+3
44 mins
Hilary Wilson
United Kingdom
United Kingdom
Native in French
&
English
United Kingdom
Spécialiste en écologie
Native in: English 
, French
Works in: English to French, French to English
snow slab
of interest to anyone skiing, mountaineering, etc
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Note added at 47 mins (2010-01-04 22:20:45 GMT)
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or slabs given it is plural!
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Note added at 52 mins (2010-01-04 22:25:44 GMT)
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If it is a Swiss met warning, I think they are more likely to point out relatively pertinent or severe conditions, rather than mere snow patches.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2010-01-05 12:00:50 GMT)
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My answer is incorrect, now we have the context, a general SMS msg for the Lausanne area. It is addressed to motorists, etc...
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Note added at 47 mins (2010-01-04 22:20:45 GMT)
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or slabs given it is plural!
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Note added at 52 mins (2010-01-04 22:25:44 GMT)
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If it is a Swiss met warning, I think they are more likely to point out relatively pertinent or severe conditions, rather than mere snow patches.
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Note added at 14 hrs (2010-01-05 12:00:50 GMT)
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My answer is incorrect, now we have the context, a general SMS msg for the Lausanne area. It is addressed to motorists, etc...
Reference:
http://www.avalanche-center.org/Education/glossary/slab.php
http://www.avalanche.org/~uac/encyclopedia/soft_slab_avalanche.htm
Peer comment(s):
| agree |
liz askew
: I have seen the extra context! Sheds new light on the subject:) Always a good idea to verge on the side of safety though.
37 mins
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Thank you!
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| agree |
Alan Douglas (X)
: Having spent many years as an alpinist, skier and professional mountaineering instructor "snow slab" is 100% correct & is one of the major causes of avalanches.
11 hrs
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| agree |
B D Finch
12 hrs
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Reference comments
1 hr
Reference:
http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:ZTP4q8s36DoJ:fr.wikipedia...
Avalanches de plaques [modifier]
Ces avalanches, souvent déclenchées par des skieurs ou randonneurs, sont celles qui font le plus de victimes. Elles impliquent parfois des plaques à vent (dont le rôle est souvent surestimé), et dans presque tous les cas une couche fragile sous-jacente de neige à faible cohésion (le plus souvent du givre de profondeur) qui représente le principal facteur de risque. Le départ se fait alors sur une superficie importante, et mobilise de très grandes quantités de neige, dans des zones parfois éloignées de la rupture initiale. Si parfois on peut être alerté par des bruits de soufflement ou d'effondrement quand on marche dessus, il n'est généralement pas possible de les reconnaître a priori. Ces plaques peuvent être constituées de neige dure (cohésive) ou friable (poudreuse, parfois très légère).
http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:I2FuraGTE5wJ:infao5501.ag...
Snow Avalanches
The avalanche is the most underestimated danger in the mountains. People generally think that they will be able to recognise the hazards and survive being caught. The truth is a somewhat different story. Every year, 120 - 150 people die in small avalanches in the Alps alone. The vast majority are reasonably experienced male skiers aged 20-35 but also include ski instructors and guides. There is always a lot of pressure to risk a snow crossing. Turning back takes a lot of extra time and effort, supreme leadership, and most importantly there seldom is an avalanche to prove the right decision was made. Making the decision to turn around is especially hard if others are crossing the slope, but any next person could become the trigger.
There are two types of avalanche:
1. The slab avalanche: This type of avalanche occurs when a plate of snow breaks loose and starts sliding down; these are the largest and most dangerous.
2. The powder avalanche: This type of avalanche is triggered by a small amount of moving snow that accumulates into a big slide. Also known as a "loose snow" avalanche.
Avalanches de plaques [modifier]
Ces avalanches, souvent déclenchées par des skieurs ou randonneurs, sont celles qui font le plus de victimes. Elles impliquent parfois des plaques à vent (dont le rôle est souvent surestimé), et dans presque tous les cas une couche fragile sous-jacente de neige à faible cohésion (le plus souvent du givre de profondeur) qui représente le principal facteur de risque. Le départ se fait alors sur une superficie importante, et mobilise de très grandes quantités de neige, dans des zones parfois éloignées de la rupture initiale. Si parfois on peut être alerté par des bruits de soufflement ou d'effondrement quand on marche dessus, il n'est généralement pas possible de les reconnaître a priori. Ces plaques peuvent être constituées de neige dure (cohésive) ou friable (poudreuse, parfois très légère).
http://66.102.9.132/search?q=cache:I2FuraGTE5wJ:infao5501.ag...
Snow Avalanches
The avalanche is the most underestimated danger in the mountains. People generally think that they will be able to recognise the hazards and survive being caught. The truth is a somewhat different story. Every year, 120 - 150 people die in small avalanches in the Alps alone. The vast majority are reasonably experienced male skiers aged 20-35 but also include ski instructors and guides. There is always a lot of pressure to risk a snow crossing. Turning back takes a lot of extra time and effort, supreme leadership, and most importantly there seldom is an avalanche to prove the right decision was made. Making the decision to turn around is especially hard if others are crossing the slope, but any next person could become the trigger.
There are two types of avalanche:
1. The slab avalanche: This type of avalanche occurs when a plate of snow breaks loose and starts sliding down; these are the largest and most dangerous.
2. The powder avalanche: This type of avalanche is triggered by a small amount of moving snow that accumulates into a big slide. Also known as a "loose snow" avalanche.
6 mins
Travelin Ann
Native in English
Timely translations
Native in: English
Works in: French to English, English, English to French
Reference:
A paper on MT of Swiss weather
in 3 languages
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-01-05 14:49:26 GMT)
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Schneebrettegefahr
danger de plaques de neige
danger of snow patches
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Note added at 17 hrs (2010-01-05 14:49:26 GMT)
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Schneebrettegefahr
danger de plaques de neige
danger of snow patches
Discussion
It is not specific, and mentions the Lausanne area which is town and country, not a mountain area. I will ask at the local village, as soon as I can get my car out of the driveway! Thanks for your help, and fascinating research on this topic.