Glossary entry

Italian term or phrase:

fosse stata una sua creazione

English translation:

Although he was not the artist... please see many options with answers given...

Added to glossary by Deb Phillips (X)
Aug 23, 2002 13:34
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Italian term

fosse stata una sua creazione

Italian to English Art/Literary
In pochi anni, da quando fu esposta alla venerazione, l’immagine di Maria Ausiliatrice, che don Bosco aveva fatto dipingere a Tommaso Lorenzone per la nuova chiesa di Valdocco, venne definita dalla gente "la Madonna di don Bosco". Questo non perché fosse stata una sua creazione, ma perché certo egli ne fu il più tenace diffusore, fino a renderla di larga popolarità.

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he was not the creator of it OR he was not the artist

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This was not because it had been his creation, but because...

Hope this helps,

Fiona
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agree Catherine Bolton : But I'd use "not because it was" rather than "had been".
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:not due to the fact that he had created it ...

again, maybe
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And not because it was one of his creations, but because....

This sounds right to me..
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agree Libero_Lang_Lab
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not for his having painted it

the reference is to the work and not as I thought to Mary, so as far as the tenace diffusore part goes he "did his utmost to make the work known"

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Note added at 2002-09-11 04:35:12 (GMT) Post-grading
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I think that, despite, this answer does not necessarily imply that Bosco did paint the work. Another point is that, looking at the context, I reckon it is not \'paint\' but \'create\'.
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agree luskie
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txo proposals

I think I'd reward it all in english. For example:

Indeed/actually, (if) it's true that he was not the painter/creator of it, still he did

The reason being that, although he did not created/painted it, he...

HTH
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not so much because he had

"Don Bosco's Madonna", not so much because he had brought it forth, but because...

I would not put a full stop after the name of the painting; rather, I would continue with a comma so as to avoid "it" and "this".

paola l m

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my problem with the other suggestions is that the Italian says that indeed the Madonna was his creation, as the previous sentence explains (he asked the painter to paint it and therefore it was his creation). The Madonna took his name because he helped make it popular and well known.

paola l m
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This name was given not because it was his creation,

but because he was the driving force behind its widespread popularity.


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