Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

...pidele a Dios que este pais vuelva a la normalidad...

English translation:

pray for this country to return to normal

Added to glossary by María Eugenia Wachtendorff
Jul 11, 2005 03:43
18 yrs ago
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Spanish term
Votes to reclassify question as PRO/non-PRO:

Non-PRO (1): Muriel Vasconcellos

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Discussion

Muriel please do not classify this question as non-pro. There is a grammar issue involved which is very interesting to us. Thank you! ;o)

Proposed translations

+5
4 mins
Selected

pray for this country to return to normality

Mi lectura, Jesús.
¡Saludos!
Peer comment(s):

agree Margarita Gonzalez
7 mins
Gracias, Marga
agree Rene Ron
54 mins
Gracias, René
agree JaneTranslates : Or, "Pray for this country to be normal again."
1 hr
Thank you, Jane
neutral Muriel Vasconcellos : "Normality" has a different meaning in English; this construction calls for an adjective.
3 hrs
Thanks, Muriel. I did think it did, but couldn't find one. What would you suggest?
agree Philippe Maillard
6 hrs
Thanks, Philippe
agree Xenia Wong
9 hrs
Gracias, Xen, pero Muriel tiene razón. Veamos qué nos dice. ¡ELLA SABE!
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Gracias."
+2
10 mins

ask God ("pray so that God will ...") to bring this country back to normalcy

puedes decir "Ask God to bring this country back to normalcy" al igual que en castellano -- por otro lado, si dices "Orale a Dios...", puedes decir "Pray so that God will bring this country back to normalcy...
Peer comment(s):

agree Adriana de Groote
27 mins
gracias
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : "Normalcy" is a coined political term, not appropriate here. The construction calls for an adjective.
3 hrs
thanks
neutral jrb : Carmen, I would have said normality rather than normalcy
5 hrs
normalcy is used in socio-political and religious texts
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12 mins

May God help this country to return to normality

option
Peer comment(s):

neutral María Eugenia Wachtendorff : Pero aquí estás expresando un buen deseo/augurio, María.
4 mins
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+1
20 mins

Ask God to make this country normal again

We could be talking about many countries.
Peer comment(s):

agree JaneTranslates : Any country, I'd say. I like your natural, straightforward version or Ma. Eugenia´s more formal one, depending on the context.
1 hr
Gracias, Jane.
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1 hr

Pray God this country goes back to normality

Sólo una sugerencia más.

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Note added at 1 hr 54 mins (2005-07-11 05:38:12 GMT)
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or returns en vez de goes back
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+3
2 hrs

Pray (to) God that the/this country can get back to normal

more colloquial but more natural
Peer comment(s):

agree jrb
3 hrs
agree Sofie Andrea Clark
5 hrs
agree Muriel Vasconcellos : I didn't see your answer when I proposed mine. I have a problem with "pray TO," but otherwise I would agree.
17 hrs
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+2
3 hrs

Pray God that this country may/will return to normal.

"Normal" is the word to use here (738,000 hits for "return to normal"). The sentence calls for an adjective in English, not a noun. (Morover, "normality" is a scientific term, and "normalcy" is a coined word that purists reject.)

I often translate the subjunctive as future in English. It depends on the context, of course. Here you could say "may return"[subj.] "will return" [fut], or "returns" [indicative].

San Francisco Mayor Angelo Rossi's 1939 Labor Day Speech
**Pray God that all Americans back our President** in his struggle to keep us out of war. And you men and women of Labor celebrating today the rights given you ...
www.sfmuseum.org/hist1/rossi.html

**Pray God that the world will** remain faithful to the poor fishing villages of ... Pray God that the earthquake disrupted more than the rotation of the earth. ...
www.noevalleyministry.org/sermons/2005/010905.html

... it becomes obvious which two men are the finalists in the duel, we can look at them and **pray God that the lesser fiend wins**, but we mustn't support him. ...
www.credenda.org/issues/12-2magistralis.php

... Notre Dame's theology department stood before the high altar in Sacred Heart Church and pronounced their Profession of Faith. **Pray God that they will**. ...
www.ad2000.com.au/articles/1990/feb1990p6_652.html

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Note added at 20 hrs 11 mins (2005-07-11 23:55:05 GMT)
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Maria Eugenia, there are all kinds of options! I was trying to capture the feel of the original.

\"Pray God that/to...\" is highly idiomatic and doesn\'t follow regular grammatical rules. It can be used with 1st, 2nd, and 3rd person, or, as I did, with no person at all, sort of, but not entirely, like Ojala [I can\'t type in accents, sorry!] which is why I chose it for this answer.

\"Pray for this country to...\" (your option) is perfectly OK. It\'s actually a 2nd person imperative (\"[I\'m telling you to] pray for this country to ...\") There was nothing wrong with your answer. It didn\'t mention God, but it\'s probably a good equivalent, especially if you consider that we don\'t use God as much in English as people do in Spanish (I did have a doubt about \"normality\"). Yours is 2nd person imperative, whereas mine is an anonymous invocation to God, which is what I thought the asker wanted to know how to express.
Peer comment(s):

agree Marina Soldati
6 hrs
Thanks, Marina!
agree María Eugenia Wachtendorff : I agree with you, Muriel, but I still wonder why you can't say "pray for *something to happen*". Is it always "pray that"? THANK YOU VERY MUCH, MURIEL!! Love, MEW
12 hrs
Thanks Maria Eugenia! -- see my answer to you above.
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