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Glossary entry

Spanish term or phrase:

Completar los cartones del magazine

English translation:

Fill the (carton) magazine with cartons/carton blanks

Added to glossary by Eileen Brophy
May 15, 2016 18:04
8 yrs ago
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Spanish term

Completar los cartones del magazine

Spanish to English Tech/Engineering Engineering: Industrial Packaging machinery
Is this badly written?

This is preparing the machine to be used and one of the instructions is "Completar los cartones del magazine," any suggestions please? I thought it could possibly be "Stock the magazine with cartons but am not sure."
Proposed translations (English)
3 Fill the (carton) magazine with cartons/carton blanks
1 Fill (up) the boxes from the loader
References
Info from a UK website

Discussion

neilmac May 16, 2016:
Oh well At least I learnt a new word from all that - 'mandrel'... :)
neilmac May 16, 2016:
Magazine Magazine (artillery), a place to store ammunition in warships and fortifications
Magazine (firearms), a device that holds ammunition for firearms
Camera magazine, a light-tight chamber to feed and take up film in a camera...
Eileen Brophy (asker) May 15, 2016:
Repository I found "repository" as an option for "magazine." What do you think?
Eileen Brophy (asker) May 15, 2016:
Lorena, sorry for not seeing your name Sorry, Lorena, I didn't see your name on the post, many thanks and some day you will have to tell me your secrets on Internet searching. :-0))
Eileen Brophy (asker) May 15, 2016:
The magazine could indeed be the feeder Helena.
Helena Chavarria May 15, 2016:
Well done, Lorena Eileen, you need to thank Lorena, not me ;-)
Helena Chavarria May 15, 2016:
I've been trying to find some information but I haven't had much luck. I suppose 'magazine' is the place where the 'cartones' are stocked. I don't know if 'feeder' would work. As for 'cartones', it could refer to 'cartons', as in English, o 'cartones' as in sheets of cardboard.
Eileen Brophy (asker) May 15, 2016:
@ Helena Chavarria THAT's it Helena, you use the Internet far better than me when looking for these things!! Thank you very much <3
lorenab23 May 15, 2016:
found this FEATURES
High speed, compact size carton erecting machine, fitted with powered magazine and bottom flaps sealer.
Folded boxes are picked from the magazine by a vacuum cups system which unfolds them and sets them ready for forming. The case is carried along the unit for a fast folding of the bottom flaps, and is set ready for filling and further top sealing.
http://dncpackaging.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/formadora...
Eileen Brophy (asker) May 15, 2016:
@Helena Chavarria It doesn't say Helena, this is part of the text below, from Spain : Solamente para retirar todas los envases de la máquina
b) No es importante, pues los envases pueden permanecer en la máquina aguardando o inicio de una nueva producción

c) Si es importante, pues el proceso de fin de producción y vaciado además de retirar los envases y cartones de la máquina pone a Cero todos los contadores del programa, además de mover el brazo de las ventosas a la posición superior para facilitar la limpieza
Helena Chavarria May 15, 2016:
@Eileen Sorry about my previous comment. I hadn't read the fields and understood that the machine was going to be used for magazines (reading material).

Is the text from Spain? What does the machine pack?
Eileen Brophy (asker) May 15, 2016:
But this is a text about a packaging machine Helena :-0((
Helena Chavarria May 15, 2016:
@Eileen I recently came across this term and I discovered that 'cartones' were sketches.

Proposed translations

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Fill the (carton) magazine with cartons/carton blanks

Mandrel Carton Form Fill Seal Machine
A packaging machine which forms cartons from either magazine fed or reel fed carton blanks around one, or a number of mandrels before filling the cartons with a product and closing them in the machine. A variant of this type of machine is used to make "Combibloc" cartons.

http://www.ppma.co.uk/cartoning/carton-form-fill-seal-machin...

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=iG3wx9Wh5N4C&pg=PA94&lpg...

Aspectic packaging process
During aseptic carton packaging at Wright’s plant—a 5,000 carton/hr operation—the process begins when operators fill the carton magazine with carton blanks, which are then extracted two at a time by a suction mechanism, opened up into rectangles, and placed on a mandrel. The carton base is then activated by hot air at two stations. While the mandrel conveys the two sleeves to the base-pressing station, rotating lateral folding arms and a longitudinal folder pre-fold the carton base. Base-pressing dies and the front face of the mandrel press and seal the carton base.

http://www.packworld.com/package-feature/shelf-life/aseptic-...

It's a lot easier now you know what sort of machine it is.
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Fill (up) the boxes from the loader

I'm saying "loader", as it appears to mean where the stuff that is getting put into the cartons/boxes is coming from. Maybe it's a hopper, maybe it's something else.

Magazine (artillery), a place to store ammunition in warships and fortifications
Magazine (firearms), a device that holds ammunition for firearms
Camera magazine, a light-tight chamber to feed and take up film in a camera

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Loader -> noun
1. a machine or person that loads something.
2. a gun, machine, or lorry which is loaded in a specified way.
"a front-loader"

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@Eileen: I don't know what 'completar' means exactly in this specific context; it usually means complete/fill in/fill up/load, etc. The rest of the context you have might give you a clue.
Hence my low confidence level (I'm guessing). Perhaps Helena's suggestion is more accurate?

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OK, now that we know that its milk cartons, it could mean something like "fill up the cartons from the deposit". I'm guessing that "magazine" may be a sort of storage device, if we're talking about milk production:
Cf. magasin n (singular definite magasinet, plural indefinite magasiner) ... From Arabic makhzan (storehouse), via French magasin and Italian magazzino.

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However, from the context and discussion so far, I can't tell whether it's the cartons which are being filled, or something is being filled up with the cartons.
Note from asker:
You think that "Completar" is "fill up the boxes" Neil? I thought it meant to fill the loader with the cartons (I now know that the cartons are for milk, something I didn't know before).
Thank you very much Neilmac for your help.
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Reference comments

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Reference:

Info from a UK website

A completely automatic compact case former that has been designed to provide all the case forming features typically found in a larger, more costly machine. The CF20-EC has the capability to process a wide range of regular slotted, or half slotted corrugated case sizes. It has an easy load hopper that accepts up to 762 mm of corrugated (about 100 cases). The CF20-EC's compact frame allows it to integrate easily into most production areas and it is easily portable.

http://www.loveshaw.co.uk/case-erector-cf20-ec.html

Case Erectors
A Case Erector removes the need to pre-erect boxes / cases or cartons prior to packing. It saves space, time & money. Operating at a run rate of between 10-15 boxes / minute, a case erector greatly speeds up the process of box erecting. Little David case erectors are easily integrated into any production line. They are precise, reliable and easy to use. Little David case erectors are justifiable on volumes as low as 500 cases / boxes per day.

Negates the need to pre-erect boxes
Case on demand capability
Easy load ground level magazine
Small footprint
Uniform case erector, quick changeover

http://www.loveshaw.co.uk/case-erectors.html

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This text mentions both 'hopper' and 'magazine' but, yes, I think 'hopper' could be another option.

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Though 'magazine' seems to be used in the carton-erector world!

The 250CE auto-bottom carton erector is a simple automation solution for the erection of pre-glued auto-locking cartons (cardboard or corrugate). Operating on-demand the 250CE will secure a single carton from its side mounted storage magazine, erect and lock the bottom and then deposit the finished box on the standard powered discharge. This heavy duty system can operate independently or as integrated in to a fully automatic line delivering up to 30 cartons per minute.

http://wepackitmachinery.com/product_250ce.htm



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http://wepackitmachinery.com/product_250ce.htm

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Fast, Flexible Carton Infeed
Special magazines make feeding carton blanks fast and easy. Each holds up to 600 blanks for maximum workflow. All N-8 controls and monitors are within easy reach, making it easy for the operator to oversee machine performance.

http://www.dairyfoods.com/ext/resources/Digital_Brochures/DF...



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There's a definition of 'magazine' on page 129

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=L2OtF9ea0g0C&pg=PA36&lpg...

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Is this better? I've changed the wording in the search bar!

https://books.google.co.uk/books?id=L2OtF9ea0g0C&pg=PA129&lp...
Note from asker:
So, magazine could be hopper, no Helena?!!
Thank you Helena, but I can't go down as far as page 129 it won't allow me, as it says that it is only a preview of the book. :-0((
It says that I have reached my limit and am not allowed to read page 129 Helena, so it seems I can't see it even when you send me the link to that exact page :-0(( Thank you for all your work and good intentions with the link <3 <3
Peer comments on this reference comment:
agree neilmac : I'm not suggesting it's a gun, rather something which functions in a similar way (i.e. it holds things which are then loaded into something else). Just trying to emphasise that it's not necessarily a magazine like Hola, etc.
19 hrs
I usually associate a magazine with a gun but in this case the term seems to be used in the carton-erector world//I understand you but before I started researching this question, I didn't know these kind of machines had magazines.
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