Oct 30, 2006 08:21
17 yrs ago
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English term

wearing derbies

English Art/Literary Poetry & Literature literature
the term " wearing derbies" comes from a novel and the whole context like this:" True marriages never make sense. Look at the couple on the other side. Proof that anything is possible, no? Perhaps we should wearing derbies. At the very least, remember to clean out the closet before I return. Hugs to Ben."

What is the " wearing derbies " mean?

Thank you!

Responses

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The hats worn by Laurel and Hardy

Erich (who therefore deserves the points) crucially gives a link to a fuller version of the asker's text, which makes clear that the passage quoted was written on a postcard which on the other side had a picture of the comic duo Laurel and Hardy (two men, not a married couple!). Part of their trademark was the hats (derbies) they always wore. The point being made is that the couple were completely different (one short, one tall etc.) and yet their "partnership" was a success - perhaps our partnerships could be a success to if we wore hats like theirs.
Peer comment(s):

agree ErichEko ⟹⭐ : I'm focusing more on reading between the lines. Yet, Ben might try to say as simple as you implied: "Let's wear those magic hats of L & H, then we'll have a successful marriage."
6 mins
agree David Knowles : Yes, that's what it is. If we wore derbies like this strange couple maybe our marriage would be a success.
26 mins
agree juvera : As I wrote to Erich, the two answers compliment each other perfectly.
3 hrs
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4 KudoZ points awarded for this answer. Comment: "Thank you for help!"
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19 mins

A derby is a round felt hat

The bowler hat is a hard felt hat with a rounded crown created for Thomas Coke, 2nd Earl of Leicester of Holkham, in 1850. It was designed by the hatters James and George Lock of Mr. Lock of St. James's Street and was dubbed by them early on as the "iron hat".

It was the traditional headwear of London city 'gents' and has become something of an English cultural icon. However English men stopped wearing hats as a matter of course in the 1960s, and most young English people in the 21st century have never seen a bowler hat worn as part of normal dress.

In the United States, this hat is also known as a derby hat.

Peer comment(s):

agree Dave Calderhead
14 mins
neutral ErichEko ⟹⭐ : "derby" can also be a type of shoes (as Cristina said). But what has "wearing derbies" got to to do w/ marriage? I thought the asker is looking for this connection. However, the background info you gave is excellent.
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20 mins

attempt

derbies - type of shoes .
Peer comment(s):

neutral ErichEko ⟹⭐ : But, how does "shoe wearing" link w/ marriage?
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53 mins

re-adopt old values

First of all, one word is missing in the text above. It should read:

"Perhaps we should START wearing derbies."

Ref: http://www.onegoodturntent.org/newsletters/0512.pdf

Next, David and Cristina have given meaning of "derby". From these two answers, we can learn that derby is a thing of the past.

Because in the text the speaker complained about non-existence of true marriages in these modern days, then by "wearing derbies", he may refer to getting back to old values of marriage (like loyalty of the wife, the man is the sole breadwinner and so on) so that true marriage can be achieved.
Peer comment(s):

agree Cristina Giannetti :
24 mins
Thanks Cristina.
agree William [Bill] Gray : I think you are close here. Maybe the key lies in "anything is possible". The couple "on the other side" perhaps do something "odd", and yet have succeeded in their marriage. Perhaps adopting old hat (or shoe) styles could be "our lucky charm"?
25 mins
Marriage is not an easy business, then... :)
agree Armorel Young : Excellent link - makes clear that "the couple on the other side" is Laurel and Hardy, which explains the whole thing.
31 mins
Thanks Armorel.
agree juvera : This is the classic case when the points should be shared - with Armorel.
3 hrs
Thanks juvera; it'll be a great enhancement of KudoZ when points can be distributed.
agree Alfa Trans (X)
2 days 10 hrs
Thanks Marju!
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